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Will the 2021 festival go ahead?


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  1. 1. Following the Oxford Vaccine news will it go ahead?

    • Yes - I 100% believe
      43
    • Yes - I think so but not close to 100%. Need to see how the roll out progresses.
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    • Maybe - I'm 50/50
      87
    • Unlikely - Even with the latest news I think it's unlikely to take place
      79
    • No - The vaccine news is great but I can't see 200k people being allowed at Worthy Farm in June.
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59 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

a better idea, perhaps, would be to set something up for ticket holders to underwrite the festival for cancellation.

"As a ticketholder, I pledge £xx to Glastonbury if it's cancelled". Something like that.

As a ticket holder I would be happy to forgo the £50 deposit I’ve already paid to help the festival if they cannot go ahead next year and just pay a new deposit in October.

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31 minutes ago, incident said:

No idea what they'd do with the money if offered (and I guess that'd depend on their own situation which we can only guess at) - but I was thinking more along the lines of -

- You set up the page, and post it on here.
- The media (or at least Somerset Live) see it.
- They ask GFL press office about it and are told something like "we don't know anything about it" or "it's not sanctioned by us".
- They run that aspect of the story (and they would), meaning you get accused of all kinds of shit.

Overall I think it's more hassle / risk (specifically to the person doing it) than it's worth. The festival do have many routes to generate cash if they need to, and so far have only done so in a limited way to raise money for the joint charities.

Thanks for going into detail mate, it was more just an idea but good to have some insight!

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2 hours ago, eFestivals said:

And if your wording means anything, it means the Eavii simply need to think up another name, so losing an 's' to make "Glastonbury Festival of Contemporary Performing Art" fulfils that clause, if they wanted to take the piss out of the council

There's a great story about them doing just that in the early days when licencing was harder. That's why it's technically not a music festival but an arts festival. 

 

 

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Can’t work out how to share, but relevant news posted by @Mellotr0n in another thread: 

From The Telegraph today-

The Oxford vaccine is expected to be approved within days of Christmas, kickstarting a massive drive to give jabs to millions of people in January, The Telegraph can reveal.

Senior Whitehall sources believe the Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Agency (MHRA) will authorise the vaccines on December 28 or 29 after final data is provided to the regulator on Monday.

Football stadia and other sites across the country will then be opened from the first week of January, to allow mass vaccinations on a scale never seen before in the UK. 

However, the progress comes amid growing fears that England is about to enter a third lockdown, with the Prime Minister recently refusing to rule out following Wales and Northern Ireland in such a course of action. 

Last week the NHS began the first Covid-19 vaccination programme in the world, with jabs given to around 140,000 elderly people and health and care workers in the first seven days. 

This week the rollout has expanded far more widely, with around 400 GP centres now involved, as well as 83 hospitals. 

Over the weekend, the total number of Britons who have received the jab is expected to pass the 500,000 mark, The Telegraph understands. 


By next week, more than 200,000 people a day should be receiving jabs, equating to well over one million doses a week by Christmas.

Once the Oxford jab gets the green light, the opening of mass vaccination centres will mean this can be increased to several million doses a week, Whitehall sources say. 

It means Britain is on course to vaccinate the 20 million most vulnerable people by March, allowing far greater release of restrictions, with the prospect the whole country could be vaccinated by summer. 
 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/18/exclusive-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-expecting-approval-within/

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42 minutes ago, incident said:

No idea what they'd do with the money if offered (and I guess that'd depend on their own situation which we can only guess at) - but I was thinking more along the lines of -

- You set up the page, and post it on here.
- The media (or at least Somerset Live) see it.
- They ask GFL press office about it and are told something like "we don't know anything about it" or "it's not sanctioned by us".
- They run that aspect of the story (and they would), meaning you get accused of all kinds of shit.

Overall I think it's more hassle / risk (specifically to the person doing it) than it's worth. The festival do have many routes to generate cash if they need to, and so far have only done so in a limited way to raise money for the joint charities.

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2 hours ago, incident said:

To be blunt, without prior approval/involvement of GFL, then you'd be opening yourself up to all kinds of accusations and problems (even if they're not true).

And I doubt you'd get that prior approval - if they need to raise cash then they know that they could do it themselves in multiple ways.

To be honest, if they do need cash they have only to ask. Whether it’s the better off artists or just ordinary punters like myself there would be a willingness to voluntarily contribute . But I think we are a long way from that situation.  Currently I’m more concerned about the loss of income to the smaller artists, the builders, the traders etc and the charities such as wateraid 

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10 hours ago, ivan said:

I don’t think The Sun would have published  the story had they not been confident it was correct.

 

That's the maddest statement I've ever read on here and Matt42 once said The Republicans could take California in the US elections. 

The Sun will print any old shit they think they can get away with. This was only yesterday...

This account has sprung up on Twitter in the last few days. Absolutely no idea of its validity but claim to be a Glastonbury insider and says there are discussions due on Monday. Could be complete bollocks but says something when I'm more inclined to believe an anonymous account on Twitter than a national newspaper. 

 

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3 hours ago, incident said:

Can I just address this "The sun usually get Glastonbury stories right" myth?

They don't. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they get it wrong - and occasionally, badly wrong.

The myth seems to be founded on them getting a couple headliners well ahead of everyone else about 5-10 years ago. But they've also called headliners wrong several times since then - most notably when they exclusively announced that Foo Fighters were headlining the 2016 Festival, after everyone else was already certain that they were ruled out, and the over the course of the next several months repeated that claim multiple times right up until the official announcement confirmed that they were talking bollocks all along.

They do get most things regarding Glastonbury right and before anyone else. You've picked one of the times it has been wrong. No one would say it's a 100% track record just that it's mostly right.

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33 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

They do get most things regarding Glastonbury right and before anyone else. You've picked one of the times it has been wrong. No one would say it's a 100% track record just that it's mostly right.

In terms of their "exclusives"? I honestly don't think they've got any better or worse record than the other tabloids. I picked that example because not only were they wrong, but everyone knew it instantly and they kept insisting on it for literally months.

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2 hours ago, mike46 said:

Can’t work out how to share, but relevant news posted by @Mellotr0n in another thread: 

From The Telegraph today-

The Oxford vaccine is expected to be approved within days of Christmas, kickstarting a massive drive to give jabs to millions of people in January, The Telegraph can reveal.

Senior Whitehall sources believe the Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Agency (MHRA) will authorise the vaccines on December 28 or 29 after final data is provided to the regulator on Monday.

Football stadia and other sites across the country will then be opened from the first week of January, to allow mass vaccinations on a scale never seen before in the UK. 

However, the progress comes amid growing fears that England is about to enter a third lockdown, with the Prime Minister recently refusing to rule out following Wales and Northern Ireland in such a course of action. 

Last week the NHS began the first Covid-19 vaccination programme in the world, with jabs given to around 140,000 elderly people and health and care workers in the first seven days. 

This week the rollout has expanded far more widely, with around 400 GP centres now involved, as well as 83 hospitals. 

Over the weekend, the total number of Britons who have received the jab is expected to pass the 500,000 mark, The Telegraph understands. 


By next week, more than 200,000 people a day should be receiving jabs, equating to well over one million doses a week by Christmas.

Once the Oxford jab gets the green light, the opening of mass vaccination centres will mean this can be increased to several million doses a week, Whitehall sources say. 

It means Britain is on course to vaccinate the 20 million most vulnerable people by March, allowing far greater release of restrictions, with the prospect the whole country could be vaccinated by summer. 
 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/18/exclusive-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-expecting-approval-within/

Several million 😍

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3 hours ago, jannybruck said:

Just a quick note for anyone who sees a The Sun story linked and wants to read it (because that Glastonbury story's probably had 50 clicks from this thread alone), you can run the URL through http://www.archive.is and it'll recover a cached version of it, so you don't give them any traffic.

I don't need to remind people here, but The Sun are hands-down the worst newspaper in the country, with journalists who've lied and put out horrific stories on people, who regularly publish 'news' that is based on flimsy sources purely because they exist to get people onto their site and buying the paper. Don't give it any more credence than you would something you saw "from a source" on Twitter.

I take your point but I'd argue that the Daily Mail is equally as bad! Either way, I refuse to click on any links to either of them. I wouldn't wipe my arse with their disgusting rags!

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Anyone saying about if we all have the vaccine. Unless you have a definitive condition to get the vaccine earlier then you are waiting until September or longer to get it.

Even if you are over 60 with some medical conditions you are waiting waiting until end of April at least. 

And although older people do attend, every younger one that would generally survive through isolation is looking at Juky/August unless you are a severe asthmatic.

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18 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Anyone saying about if we all have the vaccine. Unless you have a definitive condition to get the vaccine earlier then you are waiting until September or longer to get it.

Even if you are over 60 with some medical conditions you are waiting waiting until end of April at least. 

And although older people do attend, every younger one that would generally survive through isolation is looking at Juky/August unless you are a severe asthmatic.

Sorry but this is unhelpful doom-mongering. I literally know someone who is 66 and was contacted by the NHS yesterday to say he will be called forward for his jab in early January.

You’re talking utter unsubstantiated horseshit and it’s not helpful. 

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I think “stood down” in this context means told they’re not required for 2021. They won’t have the full line up booked at this point by a country mile. 

The Sun could obviously be wrong but I recall they’ve been referred to as a source who do get things right more than your typical tabloid. I recall Neil saying as much in times gone by. 

It also seems to fit other things that have been said by Emily and Macca, and the shitshow which is the government’s handling of all this. 

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9 hours ago, Ozanne said:

I wasn’t aware of that, sorry for my dumbness here. If it was done off people’s own backs would they be likely to turn the donation down and request it go elsewhere?

Only thing I can add to this is that in 2011 we tried to donate the refunded cost from the MyHab debacle to GFL after Michael brought in Green Tent Co at last minute at festivals expense.  We were ultimately asked to give the money to Oxfam, and I duly handed over £200 to the Frome branch.

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7 hours ago, Mellotr0n said:

Sorry but this is unhelpful doom-mongering. I literally know someone who is 66 and was contacted by the NHS yesterday to say he will be called forward for his jab in early January.

You’re talking utter unsubstantiated horseshit and it’s not helpful. 

Fuck off! I'm taking my information from official NHS Resources. I did a check based on two people within 63.

It's the fucking reality of it I'm afraid. How many 66 year old's do you think on average attend Glastonbury and other large events mind over the 18/19 to 50 crowd?

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