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Will the 2021 festival go ahead?


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Glastonbury 2021   

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  1. 1. Following the Oxford Vaccine news will it go ahead?

    • Yes - I 100% believe
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    • Yes - I think so but not close to 100%. Need to see how the roll out progresses.
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    • Maybe - I'm 50/50
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    • Unlikely - Even with the latest news I think it's unlikely to take place
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    • No - The vaccine news is great but I can't see 200k people being allowed at Worthy Farm in June.
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46 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

the licence allows as many festivals at any time of year as the Eavii might want.

However, there's a strong expectation from the council that there won't be more than one a year, and with a year off now and then.

Licence actually says.....

A1. This licence shall authorise one Glastonbury Festival of Contemporary 
Performing Arts per calendar year that allows access to public ticket holders 
on the premises for no more than 6 days.
 

It also says that an Event Management Plan has to be submitted no later than 180 days before event commencement, which would exactly next Friday.  It only states it needs to be a first draft though, so perfectly possible they could just submit last years to demonstrate intent and then finalise as/ when circumstances dictate.

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Macca's ability to predict the future is no better than anyone else's. 

The festival probably has until March to make a final decision. Three critical months in terms of vaccine rollout and further lockdowns.

I do hope the government steps in to help with the insurance situation, not just for Glastonbury, but all festivals, and indeed the entire live music industry. 

I can't see on-site testing to be honest. I think it would be logistically impossible. But I can see some sort of "proof of vaccination" effort happening. Considering they already have our names and photos, Glastonbury probably is better equipped to do this than most other festivals.

 

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3 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

Macca's ability to predict the future is no better than anyone else's. 

The festival probably has until March to make a final decision. Three critical months in terms of vaccine rollout and further lockdowns.

I do hope the government steps in to help with the insurance situation, not just for Glastonbury, but all festivals, and indeed the entire live music industry. 

I can't see on-site testing to be honest. I think it would be logistically impossible. But I can see some sort of "proof of vaccination" effort happening. Considering they already have our names and photos, Glastonbury probably is better equipped to do this than most other festivals.

 

Totally agree that prior testing could be acceptable to reduce risk.

But surely March is too late, given the need to all but build a town with everything that involves.

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3 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Totally agree that prior testing could be acceptable to reduce risk.

But surely March is too late, given the need to all but build a town with everything that involves.

I think the build is surprisingly late given all that it entails, and bear in mind much of it is in use at other places before and after the festival anyway, so to an extent it has to be. I’d be amazed if anything actually gets built at all as early as March, it’s more going to be that everyone involved from a supplier perspective will need some sort of certainty either way by March-ish at the latest. 

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8 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

Macca's ability to predict the future is no better than anyone else's. 

The festival probably has until March to make a final decision. Three critical months in terms of vaccine rollout and further lockdowns.

I do hope the government steps in to help with the insurance situation, not just for Glastonbury, but all festivals, and indeed the entire live music industry. 

I can't see on-site testing to be honest. I think it would be logistically impossible. But I can see some sort of "proof of vaccination" effort happening. Considering they already have our names and photos, Glastonbury probably is better equipped to do this than most other festivals.

 

I hope it's not proof of vaccination as the vast majority of you lot won't be able to go as won't be vaccinated until summer/autumn (and me if I can get a ticket!).

For that reason I can't see it being that.

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Just now, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

I think the build is surprisingly late given all that it entails, and bear in mind much of it is in use at other places before and after the festival anyway, so to an extent it has to be. I’d be amazed if anything actually gets built at all as early as March, it’s more going to be that everyone involved from a supplier perspective will need some sort of certainty either way by March-ish at the latest. 

Sorry I meant in terms of agreeing contracts etc with all the key suppliers (and there being so many of them) rather than the build itself.

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13 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

I can't see on-site testing to be honest. I think it would be logistically impossible. But I can see some sort of "proof of vaccination" effort happening. Considering they already have our names and photos, Glastonbury probably is better equipped to do this than most other festivals.

 

That is a complete non-starter as 90%+ of their customers won't have been vaccinated by then.

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2 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Sorry I meant in terms of agreeing contracts etc with all the key suppliers (and there being so many of them) rather than the build itself.

With the supplier thing, could this not be delayed this year, given that if Glastonbury can't go ahead, then it's not as if the suppliers will be missing out on any other work, given if Glastonbury can't go ahead, then other events they'd be supplying to won't be able to go ahead either? As a result, is it not in the supplier's interests to work to a slightly tighter timeline this year in the possibility of hopefully getting the green light and being able to go ahead, rather than not being flexible and missing out on a load of potential business from Glastonbury? I'm sure it's not as simple as what I've just said but was just a thought I had. 

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2 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Sorry I meant in terms of agreeing contracts etc with all the key suppliers (and there being so many of them) rather than the build itself.

I think that’s a difficult one, because if Glastonbury isn’t on what will all the suppliers do instead? So I’m inclined to think all involved will leave things as late as they possibly can because it’s in their interests to.

I used the example of series stages the other day, they supply all the main stages, it’s in their interests to be as flexible as they can possibly be, as it will be for most suppliers. 

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I've done some basic maths. If you're 60, at current rates you should expect to be vaccinated and fully immune by the end of June, judging by that calculator. As long as people aren't selfish and booming off to other countries that aren't as far along in terms of vaccinations, surely we can just pretty much crack on as normal, given the likely low death rate and impact on hospitals. Please don't think I'm flippant, but once the vulnerable and health/care workers are safe, surely for the sake of people's livelihoods and sanity, we're good to go. Glasto is happening. 

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2 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

I used the example of series stages the other day, they supply all the main stages, it’s in their interests to be as flexible as they can possibly be, as it will be for most suppliers. 

But they too will have their suppliers and subcontractors, who in turn...

You get my drift not everyone who does Festival work is solely engaged in that work and needs to fill their diaries with work.

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6 minutes ago, Superscally said:

I've done some basic maths. If you're 60, at current rates you should expect to be vaccinated and fully immune by the end of June, judging by that calculator. As long as people aren't selfish and booming off to other countries that aren't as far along in terms of vaccinations, surely we can just pretty much crack on as normal, given the likely low death rate and impact on hospitals. Please don't think I'm flippant, but once the vulnerable and health/care workers are safe, surely for the sake of people's livelihoods and sanity, we're good to go. Glasto is happening. 

Why logically would any international travel affect a UK population with very lax restrictions (i.e. with a very high R) of its own?

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To add an element of positivity to proceedings, I took my 93 yr old Dad to get his Hearing Aid repaired at James Cook Hospital Middlesbrough and he was given the Pfizer Vaccine first dose "while you're here".

The process took about an hour but most of that time was form filling, and you have to wait 15 minutes after the jab before you can leave. It will make Christmas more relaxing even though he won't get his second dose until early January.

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Oxfam are sending out their emails to volunteers with priority and saying that there won't be any more information "any earlier than the beginning of February"

 

Shows they're still planning which is a positive and adds more info to everything else we know about late Jan appearing to be a decision point.

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7 minutes ago, Rumblestripe said:

To add an element of positivity to proceedings, I took my 93 yr old Dad to get his Hearing Aid repaired at James Cook Hospital Middlesbrough and he was given the Pfizer Vaccine first dose "while you're here".

The process took about an hour but most of that time was form filling, and you have to wait 15 minutes after the jab before you can leave. It will make Christmas more relaxing even though he won't get his second dose until early January.

Hooray for your dad.

The first dose means he will can expect to have strong protection by c. the 28th and from that date he can probably relax quite a lot (but still best not to infect others!). 

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1 hour ago, parsonjack said:

Licence actually says.....

A1. This licence shall authorise one Glastonbury Festival of Contemporary 
Performing Arts per calendar year that allows access to public ticket holders 
on the premises for no more than 6 days.

I'd be happy with A1 headlining at this stage, let alone maximum use of the A1 license.

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38 minutes ago, mike46 said:

Love to know how this test can be administered and then entry allowed/denied to Glastonbury festival as a result. If it was instantaneous there would still be massive challenges.

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