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Vance is the better, more polished speaker and looks the most comfortable as expected even though he seems to be flat out lying at times but Waltz is certainly growing into it and getting better as it moves along.

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It was a good debate with a completely different feel. Vance is a good speaker whether he's telling the truth or not and it makes a welcome change from listening to trumps inchoherent rambling. Strong finish by Waltz flat out asking Vance if Trump lost the last election which understandably he couldn't answer.

 

It was actually good to see a some respect given to each other after the hate and vitriol that has become the norm these days. 

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34 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

score draw?

Haven’t seen it all but seems to be the general consensus. Vance a more skilled debater but lied a fair bit, whereas Walz stumbled over himself a bit but generally more honest with his answers.


If anything it just seemed to show how boring these things are without a maniac on one side blurting out utter nonsense.

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41 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

score draw?

That's probably not far off. If I was to pick a winner I would say Vance possibly edged it by the slightest of whiskers but that is because he is a very polished speaker. I would imagine both parties will come away very happy though and I doubt it will move the needle from where it currently is. Waltz was talking very fast at the start and was clearly nervous in the early stages but settled into it as the night went on. He was clearly rattled when questioned on when he was in Hong Kong (he has stated that he was there at time of the Tiananmen Square protests but it turned out he wasn't) but he spoke well on abortion and healthcare issues and held his own on immigration and economy. To be honest it was a very civil debate for the most part. Vance came across well and I can see him running for the top job at some stage. Waltz just comes across as a genuine guy who cares.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, MilkyJoe said:
At this stage I think it would be better for everybody if they had him committed after he loses.

I guarantee if Kamala wins, once the inauguration is all done and dusted and there’s no more chances of Republicans trying to f**k the results they’ll all start dropping any whiff of Trump rapidly and try and wash their hands of him, and if bringing his mental capacity in to play is what needs to be done then I’m sure they’ll go there.

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1 hour ago, FloopFiller said:

I guarantee if Kamala wins, once the inauguration is all done and dusted and there’s no more chances of Republicans trying to f**k the results they’ll all start dropping any whiff of Trump rapidly and try and wash their hands of him, and if bringing his mental capacity in to play is what needs to be done then I’m sure they’ll go there.

Yeah I've been saying this for a while now. The GOP is going to drop trump like a hot stone. I still wouldn't put it past his ego to run as an independent in 4 years if he can still stand up but hopefully if he loses this one he's finished and will be able to concentrate on trying to stay out of jail.

34 minutes ago, FloopFiller said:

Just seen the clip of Walz saying he’s befriended school shooters (when he presumably meant to say the victims) 😬 Whoops, pretty big gaff.

He actually said this twice. Trump picked up on it but it doesn't seem to be a major talking point on twitter. I thought that would be the thing that was seized on.

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1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

October surprises. Maybe God is with Trump.

 

 

Nah, just means she’s gonna be entering office in the midst of a shitshow, but when isn’t America (or the world) in the midst of a shitshow these days?! Really don’t see these kind of issues moving the needle much at this late stage.

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Nothing we didn’t already know but newly released Jack Smith filings confirm Trump and all of his people knew full well they lost the election and resorted to criminal activity to try and overturn it. Doubt it’s gonna really change anything at this late stage, but a nice early October surprise and one of many to come I’m sure. 
 

Also a bit in there about how blasé Trump was about Pence being in danger, which again we knew, but kinda nuts to read just how little he gave a sh*t about his VP possibly dying because he refused to bend the knee for him and attempt to overturn the results. 

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8 hours ago, LJS said:

Interesting...

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She’s still an awful person but fair play to her for coming out with this and at this time.

 

Although every chance she hasn’t even read the book and it was snuck in by her ghost writer, or possibly just her little way of sticking it to Trump who she clearly detests. 

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5 minutes ago, FloopFiller said:

Nothing we didn’t already know but newly released Jack Smith filings confirm Trump and all of his people knew full well they lost the election and resorted to criminal activity to try and overturn it. Doubt it’s gonna really change anything at this late stage, but a nice early October surprise and one of many to come I’m sure. 
 

Also a bit in there about how blasé Trump was about Pence being in danger, which again we knew, but kinda nuts to read just how little he gave a sh*t about his VP possibly dying because he refused to bend the knee for him and attempt to overturn the results. 

I sense it's going to be a few days of trump rage tweeting coming up. He's already started with the caps lock.😁

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