No indoor stages?

[Matt42]

1 minute ago, kaytee... said:

Seems like a daft move given that it's rained at more Leeds fests I've been to than not. Also the atmosphere in tents is often miles better than outdoors. Not to mention less space between stages than Glasto would have. Melvin's fucked it if true.

If it means the festival can go ahead then Melvin will do it

[Matt42]

Just now, Johnkhutch said:

But, unless there's a price reduction, wouldn't that piss off your average punter if they're essentially getting a reduced service? I know most of us here are "Glasto at any cost", but I can imagine some people feeling short changed if they're still paying full whack. I know Glasto is incredible value as it is, but still.

There’s a way for them to refund and cancel their tickets if they are that upset about it.

I see it this way - the next festival season (if it goes ahead) is going to be weird. Deal with it.

We are living in surreal times. Events are going to go through weird hoops just to operate. The glasto we know and love will come back when this is all over. I think we can sit through a surreal year, especially when it’s no fault of the festival at all. 

[kaytee...]

Just now, Matt42 said:

If it means the festival can go ahead then Melvin will do it

For a second I forgot about the reasoning behind the idea....that was a blissful 5 minutes not thinking about virus stuff. So yeah, no tents and a festival actually going ahead is the better option I suppose. 

I'm guessing they'll have to massively cut down on campsites then cos I don't know about Reading but the Leeds arena is packed out as it is.

[Matt42]

Just now, kaytee... said:

For a second I forgot about the reasoning behind the idea....that was a blissful 5 minutes not thinking about virus stuff. So yeah, no tents and a festival actually going ahead is the better option I suppose. 

I'm guessing they'll have to massively cut down on campsites then cos I don't know about Reading but the Leeds arena is packed out as it is.

This is why I’m interested in the reasoning behind it. I reckon they could “enforce” a - ‘in your tent only’ rule and ‘socialise outside’.

It would be impossible to enforce and they probably wouldn’t enforce it, but as long as it keeps the authorities off their back it’s probably passable.

[Zoo Music Girl]

When would they make it clear it was going to be a reduced festival though? Surely it would have to be before January to allow people a full refund (i.e. not less the admin fee).

Genuinely fascinated by the no pit rule at Reading/Leeds. How does that work? It's been many a year since I was in the pit, but doesn't it just happen organically? Do you mean they would be policing where people can stand?

 

[Leyrulion]

5 minutes ago, Johnkhutch said:

But, unless there's a price reduction, wouldn't that piss off your average punter if they're essentially getting a reduced service? I know most of us here are "Glasto at any cost", but I can imagine some people feeling short changed if they're still paying full whack. I know Glasto is incredible value as it is, but still.

How often does your average punter get to see all the arenas at Glastonbury? Let alone every stage. 

The first timers won't know they're missing out on. 

[Matt42]

Just now, Zoo Music Girl said:

When would they make it clear it was going to be a reduced festival though? Surely it would have to be before January to allow people a full refund (i.e. not less the admin fee).

Genuinely fascinated by the no pit rule at Reading/Leeds. How does that work? It's been many a year since I was in the pit, but doesn't it just happen organically? Do you mean they would be policing where people can stand?

 

The pit stage 😁

[Zoo Music Girl]

Just now, Matt42 said:

The pit stage 😁

Ah! I thought you meant a mosh pit...

[Matt42]

Just now, Zoo Music Girl said:

Ah! I thought you meant a mosh pit...

Hahah. Have an upvote!

someone being hired to break up mosh pits sounds like the worst job in the world

Edited August 31, 2020 by Matt42

[Zoo Music Girl]

3 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Hahah. Have an upvote!

someone being hired to break up mosh pits sounds like the worst job in the world

Showing my age I reckon too. They probably don't call them that any more.

My last Reading was in 2002...

 

[Matt42]

Just now, Zoo Music Girl said:

Showing my age I reckon too. They probably don't call them that any more.

My last Reading was in 2002...

 

No worries. It was a wholesome efestivals moment 😂

[Zoo Music Girl]

 

[Suprefan]

They could be aiming for a bubble environment. If theres less camping and theyre streamlining this much they could just be looking at that as an option. How else are you going to have effective testing if the single day attendees have almost zero liability if/when they got tested. Could also not offer single day tickets so its the same people at the festival the whole weekend. Theyre likely banking on people being desperate for any type of even that  theyll get a sellout.
 

if R/L is going  to just the 2 stages and nothing else, then they can only announce another dozen acts at most and cut set times down to  30 mins til the top 4 each day.  Plus start at 10am to fit everyone in. 

[Hugh Jass]

7 hours ago, Matt42 said:

Exactly. Increase crowd capacity for the outdoor stages.

@Hugh Jass apologies if I’m unclear but I wish there was a better word I can use than downsize. By downsize I mean less stages, not less people. The stages they do have - a site rejig to hold more people / larger crowds.

All I’m focusing on is R&L supposedly cutting tents and increasing the capacity for outdoor stages. Something Glastonbury can easily do. This isn’t about making crowds smaller if the emphasis is on them being outside.

The point I keep making, and you keep failing to grasp, is that reducing the number of stages/areas without reducing the number of people simply leads to even more people at the Pyramid/Other/wherever else is open as there are fewer options.

You’re actually making things worse.

Edited September 1, 2020 by Hugh Jass

[eiepete]

Wouldn't of liked to be at Reading this weekend without shelter from the rain or Glastonbury without shelter from the sun!

[SwedgeAntilles]

8 hours ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Ah! I thought you meant a mosh pit...

Yeah, me too.

[Mr.Tease]

7 minutes ago, eiepete said:

Wouldn't of liked to be at Reading this weekend without shelter from the rain or Glastonbury without shelter from the sun!

It would be brutal! 

[Zoo Music Girl]

10 minutes ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

Yeah, me too.

Lack of capitalisation innit.

[Hugh Jass]

At a quick glance, and this is by no means an exhaustive list, the following areas/venues would be affected;

John Peel, Acoustic, Avalon, Stonebridge, Rabbit Hole, Crow’s Nest, the Glade, Croissant Neuf, Left Field, Williams Green, most of the Dance Village, most of the SE Corner, Theatre/Circus fields, the whole of the Green/Healing/Craft Fields, most of the bars and the markets...

It’s simply not workable.

Edited September 1, 2020 by Hugh Jass

[Hugh Jass]

All those cool random little places you stumble across at 5 in the morning? Forget them, gone.

It’s easy to strip the soul out of Reading/Leeds because it never had one to begin with.

[kingcrawler]

Others will know better but I feel like the John Peel tent could be open air for a year without it having too much of an effect on other stages, it’s isolated enough that it might only bother a few areas in Silver Hayes. However, I don’t see how it’s in any way possible for areas with lots of small tents that Hugh Jass mentioned above.

[Matt42]

19 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

All those cool random little places you stumble across at 5 in the morning? Forget them, gone.

It’s easy to strip the soul out of Reading/Leeds because it never had one to begin with.

If it means the festival can go ahead then why not? You don’t have to go in 2021 you can wait till 2022 when they come back if you want.

I’d rather lump it and be at the farm

[Hugh Jass]

3 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

If it means the festival can go ahead then why not? You don’t have to go in 2021 you can wait till 2022 when they come back if you want.

I’d rather lump it and be at the farm

For the billionth time Matthew - if you strip out the areas I’ve listed above, and they would have to, what are you left with? Pyramid, Other, Holts and a severely reduced Park. That’s pretty much it.

The festival has already sold its full allocation of 135k tickets with minimal returns requested. They cannot reduce capacity to compensate for the reduced services on site. All that’ll happen is the thousands of people who would be hanging around the SE Corner, Dance Village, Theatre and all those places will simply descend on the open areas, making them even busier and defeating the purpose of restrictions.

I’ll keep saying it until I’m blue in the face - it either goes ahead as usual, or it doesn’t at all.

[FloorFiller]

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

For the billionth time Matthew - if you strip out the areas I’ve listed above, and they would have to, what are you left with? Pyramid, Other, Holts and a severely reduced Park. That’s pretty much it.

The festival has already sold its full allocation of 135k tickets with minimal returns requested. They cannot reduce capacity to compensate for the reduced services on site. All that’ll happen is the thousands of people who would be hanging around the SE Corner, Dance Village, Theatre and all those places will simply descend on the open areas, making them even busier and defeating the purpose of restrictions.

I’ll keep saying it until I’m blue in the face - it either goes ahead as usual, or it doesn’t at all.

Yep, this. Of course there are some stages that they could make open air for just the one year, but that’s pretty limited to the bigger stages and not the hundreds of smaller places scattered throughout the site, and without those it just isn’t Glastonbury and I doubt they’re gonna let it go ahead running at 25% or less of what it would usually be. It isn’t as easy as just scrapping a ton of tented/roofed areas when the site is still gonna be at maximum  capacity.

[zahidf]

I havent even seen anything which says Reading have given up on indoor tents

Id be amazed if we social distancing next June btw. theyll be enough vaccinatons/treatments around that theyll levae it up to us to risk it