October ticket sale

[whitehorses]

Worrying about faceless social media accounts, even those who run bots, is a peculiar feeling... Nonetheless, anyone know if this person who runs glastocountdown is ok? And more importantly will be resuming the count! This was their last tweet

[Crazyfool01]

16 minutes ago, Superscally said:

 

Unfortunately I’m the pinup boy of Somerset live Glastonbury articles !!  Surely they could have found an alternative in hunter wellies !! 

Edited June 30, 2020 by crazyfool1

[BlueDaze]

52 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

True, but I’d bet those same groups will be trying for less successful friends.

You’re more likely to see a decline a casual/speculative punters than the dedicated hardcore.

given the number of regulars on here who didnt seem to get tickets...(and especially the large groups that seemed decimated (we got 0/17 for instance) i would suggest that the casual/speculative punters already have their hands on tickets...

[BlueDaze]

43 minutes ago, Superscally said:

 

he is almost as famous as you now @Superscally 😉

If i am lucky enough to get a cider for the both of you on the farm, i can bask in your respective reflected glory 😎

[OBface]

1 hour ago, BlueDaze said:

given the number of regulars on here who didnt seem to get tickets...(and especially the large groups that seemed decimated (we got 0/17 for instance) i would suggest that the casual/speculative punters already have their hands on tickets...

Same story here. We're a (well organised) group of 40 + who failed to get a single ticket the last 2 years. On the other hand lots of friends with a passing interest in the festival have breezed in.

 

Not hopeful for October.

[Zoo Music Girl]

2 hours ago, BlueDaze said:

given the number of regulars on here who didnt seem to get tickets...(and especially the large groups that seemed decimated (we got 0/17 for instance) i would suggest that the casual/speculative punters already have their hands on tickets...

 

1 hour ago, OBface said:

Same story here. We're a (well organised) group of 40 + who failed to get a single ticket the last 2 years. On the other hand lots of friends with a passing interest in the festival have breezed in.

 

Not hopeful for October.

I think the point was more that those people are more likely to give those tickets up? So actually a higher proportion of what people deem casuals/newbies having tickets now could mean more back in the pot.

All speculation though innit. I'm ticketless and I do not have high hopes.

[stuie]

I’m gonna guess on the outside, I reckon there will be loads of tickets available. 
 

Even if the Covid situation has declined by then, which I think it will, there’s gonna be a lot of folk that still won’t be comfortable with going to this kind of event. 
 

I don’t think everyone will be rushing out to get in a festival queue after this... it’s gonna take a few years.

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

4 hours ago, stuie said:

I’m gonna guess on the outside, I reckon there will be loads of tickets available. 
 

Even if the Covid situation has declined by then, which I think it will, there’s gonna be a lot of folk that still won’t be comfortable with going to this kind of event. 
 

I don’t think everyone will be rushing out to get in a festival queue after this... it’s gonna take a few years.

April I think you’re right, there is every reason there will be more than there is in a normal resale.

October (if there is one) I can’t see there being very many at all. You have to actively ask for a refund so I think the only people that will have will be the ones that really desperately need the £50 back. The fact that 2021 is still in doubt is all the more reason not to ask for a refund yet, if it doesn’t go ahead then you’re no worse off for waiting. You’ll either get your £50 back in full next year, or far less likely there will be another roll over. It’s a non reversible decision so I don’t see the logic of somebody actively asking for a refund ahead of October, vs the completely different scenario of actively having to pay £200+ in April if you then want to secure your ticket.

On a slightly separate note, I know it’s all anecdotal regarding the stories on this thread about large groups who are normally successful missing out. But the organisers will have the stats and if there was a large number of first time registrations successful I’d imagine that played a large part in allowing a rollover. Imagine a record number of first timers get tickets and then they’re voided. Would’ve been a terrible message and really bad for their long term popularity. 

[gigpusher]

I think in October there will be a higher number of returns than a usual April resale due to Covid, family circumstances changing, friendship groups changing amongst younger people who would normally go etc but I think that there will be vastly more people trying in October than would usually try for an April resale so I still think the odds of getting them are reduced. 

My reasoning there's a lot of people who have managed to stay in work who have actually saved a lot during lockdown because of reduced expenditure and after such a shit 2020 will be determined to make 2021 a good one. The BBC coverage of Glastonbury this year was effectively a greatest hits and even amongst people I know I have seen an increased number of people who have decided it's a bucket list item. 

Also, most people who are unsuccessful in October by April come up with alternatives and so a lot of people who wanted to go in October drop out whereas this year you have a resale amount of tickets but with a main sale amount of time to prepare. This will appeal particularly to bucket listers who won't have any Glastonbury equipment. 

I'm trying to remain optimistic and I'll be as prepared as I can be to get a ticket but I'm under no illusions that it will be easy. 

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

It also depends on how much they decide to publicise any October sale. Obviously in a normal year there is a fairly big publicity drive to raise awareness, emails sent out to existing registrations etc so everyone is primed and ready. They’ll know how many tickets there are and if there are only a few will they bother to whip everyone up into a ticket buying frenzy this year if there are hardly any to sell.

[Zoo Music Girl]

7 minutes ago, gigpusher said:

I think in October there will be a higher number of returns than a usual April resale due to Covid, family circumstances changing, friendship groups changing amongst younger people who would normally go etc but I think that there will be vastly more people trying in October than would usually try for an April resale so I still think the odds of getting them are reduced. 

My reasoning there's a lot of people who have managed to stay in work who have actually saved a lot during lockdown because of reduced expenditure and after such a shit 2020 will be determined to make 2021 a good one. The BBC coverage of Glastonbury this year was effectively a greatest hits and even amongst people I know I have seen an increased number of people who have decided it's a bucket list item. 

Also, most people who are unsuccessful in October by April come up with alternatives and so a lot of people who wanted to go in October drop out whereas this year you have a resale amount of tickets but with a main sale amount of time to prepare. This will appeal particularly to bucket listers who won't have any Glastonbury equipment. 

I'm trying to remain optimistic and I'll be as prepared as I can be to get a ticket but I'm under no illusions that it will be easy. 

Yes I agree with all this. I reckon in October there won't be many, but April will probably have the same amount as usual.

I'm not sure I believe a lot of people will be put off festivals for years. People were going to raves and parties during the pandemic so if the risk is less I don't think it will put that many off. Some will, of course, but I think financial factors will weigh in far more. I guess let's see how busy the pubs are to see how freaked out the majority are about going to busy places.

[gigpusher]

14 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Yes I agree with all this. I reckon in October there won't be many, but April will probably have the same amount as usual.

I'm not sure I believe a lot of people will be put off festivals for years. People were going to raves and parties during the pandemic so if the risk is less I don't think it will put that many off. Some will, of course, but I think financial factors will weigh in far more. I guess let's see how busy the pubs are to see how freaked out the majority are about going to busy places.

I think October will probably have about 5% more than a normal resale but with 1000% more people trying to bu them. By April I think we could have about 5% more than usual resale again and hopefully be back to more normal levels of people trying so I think October will be a long shot but with possibly slightly improved chances in April. 

By April we should see a lot of the A level groups put tickets back in as they no longer socialise with the people they would have gone in 2020 with. Friendship groups can change a lot at that time and sadly by then the economic consequences of COVID and Brexit combined may be starting to hit. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

2 minutes ago, gigpusher said:

I think October will probably have about 5% more than a normal resale but with 1000% more people trying to bu them. By April I think we could have about 5% more than usual resale again and hopefully be back to more normal levels of people trying so I think October will be a long shot but with possibly slightly improved chances in April. 

By April we should see a lot of the A level groups put tickets back in as they no longer socialise with the people they would have gone in 2020 with. Friendship groups can change a lot at that time and sadly by then the economic consequences of COVID and Brexit combined may be starting to hit. 

Yeah all good points. October I think will have crazy demand for very few tickets. The risk of putting a deposit down then and making a decision later is not great and so many people want to have things to look forward to.

[Matt42]

Also I think there will be less people trying for tickets overseas 

[FloorFiller]

8 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Also I think there will be less people trying for tickets overseas 

This is a good point. I'm not sure what the percentage of overseas attendees is, but you'd imagine a lot of them would feel the risk more of coming over here and possibly bringing the virus back with them.

Also, although I'm sure it won't be distinctly noticeable, I wonder if there'll be a slight shift in the age range as more elderly people sit this one out due to them feeling like the risk isn't worth it, and possibly even less young children brought along due to parents feeling the same way.

[Lycra]

18 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Yes I agree with all this. I reckon in October there won't be many, but April will probably have the same amount as usual.

I'm not sure I believe a lot of people will be put off festivals for years. People were going to raves and parties during the pandemic so if the risk is less I don't think it will put that many off. Some will, of course, but I think financial factors will weigh in far more. I guess let's see how busy the pubs are to see how freaked out the majority are about going to busy places.

Given the hospitality sector which provides employment to the younger element & students is one of the worst Covid effected industries its probable this will affect the attendence of some thereby boosting the resale. There will be others similarly affected. Others will relinquish tickets as their social circle changes/disbands. But given the October resale is as far away as the begining of lockdown was and the virus is still around affecting our daily lives, it's difficult to predict what will happen. 

Until the pandemic is brought under significant control, either naturally or by controlled heath actions, or by vaccination, social distancing will remain for the mantra for the foreseeable future and crowd sizes will be restricted. 

[vintagelaureate]

There are loads of factors at play. If they decide to move exams (GCSEs & A-Levels) to late June/July that will impact too.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Thinking about myself, as one example, I'm still super wary about the virus and not keen to rush back to pubs etc. However I don't have a ticket and I don't see any downside or harm in trying in October as I can always cancel further down the line. I'm also lucky to have been working throughout and have actually save money during lockdown, although my job is far from secure long term, which is the case for a lot of people. But if I still have work by October I'll definitely try. At that stage I doubt I will feel that confident about it all, but you don't really have to.

[gigpusher]

7 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Thinking about myself, as one example, I'm still super wary about the virus and not keen to rush back to pubs etc. However I don't have a ticket and I don't see any downside or harm in trying in October as I can always cancel further down the line. I'm also lucky to have been working throughout and have actually save money during lockdown, although my job is far from secure long term, which is the case for a lot of people. But if I still have work by October I'll definitely try. At that stage I doubt I will feel that confident about it all, but you don't really have to.

Yes I think because of the job I do web related I haven't been that affected and most of my friends haven't been either. For me it's been busier than normal and whilst I have been very cautious a combination of work being a lot busier than ever, nothing to look forward to  and my ability to self-isolate easily etc means I am pretty desperate to go but I am tempering my enthusiasm with the realism that it could still be very difficult to pull it off. 

[Crazyfool01]

I think people are underestimating the large amount of unemployment once the furlough schemes end ... it’s not just the people directly concerned ... it’s the friendship groups of those also ... lots of people won’t want to go without friends 

[Crazyfool01]

Throw into the mix localised lockdowns and we might also get late sales ... or even a return of secret reales 

[Zoo Music Girl]

Didn't think about the impact of localised lockdowns. If those are still a thing what happens if you area goes into one just before the gates open? Would they have to plan for stuff like this?

 

[gigpusher]

4 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Didn't think about the impact of localised lockdowns. If those are still a thing what happens if you area goes into one just before the gates open? Would they have to plan for stuff like this?

 

I would use my judgement and test my eyesight by driving to Pilton   Joke obviously!!! 

Edited July 1, 2020 by gigpusher

[squirrelarmy]

1 hour ago, gigpusher said:

My reasoning there's a lot of people who have managed to stay in work who have actually saved a lot during lockdown because of reduced expenditure and after such a shit 2020 will be determined to make 2021 a good one

I’m definitely in the category of being able to save money even though I’m on 80% salary. It has made me wonder how much money I actually spend on going on drinking as well as what I spend on public transport/taxis. 
 

I definitely will be doing everything possible to make sure I’m there next year. Just have to hope my operation doesn’t get scheduled at the worst possible time. 

[Matt42]

7 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Didn't think about the impact of localised lockdowns. If those are still a thing what happens if you area goes into one just before the gates open? Would they have to plan for stuff like this?

 

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