parsonjack Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, JoeyT said: Great idea! I know everyone is in a different position but I'd more than happily let them keep / redistribute my £50 for a guaranteed ticket the following year. How many tickets were sold in back in October 2019? Even working from a 100,000 it's 5 million quid the festival has (+ associated interest that gains I assume?) If as little as 20% opted for the above scheme it would be £1million to share between the various charities & businesses. Just re-read my post and updated...obviously I mean a guaranteed ticket for 2022 not 2021...duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 This is Promising at least. If a major airline such as United is starting to implement rapid tests and also the option of an at home kit, others could partner with the company that makes them and use em. They got plenty of time to prepare. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/09/24/united-airlines-introduces-covid-19-rapid-testing-program-hawaii/3515043001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madyaker Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 They will roll the tickets over again if they have to. There’s no way they’ll be refunding all that cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsonjack Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, Madyaker said: They will roll the tickets over again if they have to. There’s no way they’ll be refunding all that cash. Agreed....same as for 2020 then....but with a further option to forfeit your deposit to support causes and businesses the festival supports and similarly depends upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 As much as it sounds negative, if this all runs for the 6 months then 3 months post that to host 200k people in one place where they walk where they want I think is very unlikely. This seems to be a big feeling on social media platforms as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzared Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, thewayiam said: As much as it sounds negative, if this all runs for the 6 months then 3 months post that to host 200k people in one place where they walk where they want I think is very unlikely. This seems to be a big feeling on social media platforms as well. How the hell have you got -2075 reputation 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, gazzared said: How the hell have you got -2075 reputation 😮 Probably for opinions like this lol 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdusty surfer Posted September 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Sorry to be looking like Captain Pessimistic, but I'm just trying to manage my own expectations for next year. Chatting to friends of mine who are much more involved than I am are starting to feel somewhat less hopeful for events next year, Glastonbury in particular as it is one of the earlier ones. For some of them, Glastonbury is their major earner of the year. Finges crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Sawdusty Surfer said: Sorry to be looking like Captain Pessimistic, but I'm just trying to manage my own expectations for next year. don't forget to include in your thinking that WHO expect at least one vaccine to start being rolled out before the end of the year. If that happens that puts a hugely different spin on things. That might not happen of course. But if it does it's a game changer and there's every reason to be hopeful about it. Mass testing is much less of a game changer for festivals with as many days as Glastonbury. One test sort-of covers you as safe for the next 3 days, but not for 5 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tease Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 I worry about the coach situation - by rolling over the coach deposits, what will they do if coach capacity is severely reduced due to social distancing measures? How do they account for that possible variable (who knows what public transport rules will be at that point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said: I worry about the coach situation - by rolling over the coach deposits, what will they do if coach capacity is severely reduced due to social distancing measures? How do they account for that possible variable (who knows what public transport rules will be at that point). It only happens without social distancing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 I've seen the coach question raised before, but I don't think it's an issue really. You'd just have to wear masks on the coach. I say this because I've got the tube, train and bus several times now and there's nothing stopping them being filled to capacity any more. Don't see why coaches now would be any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr.Tease said: I worry about the coach situation - by rolling over the coach deposits, what will they do if coach capacity is severely reduced due to social distancing measures? How do they account for that possible variable (who knows what public transport rules will be at that point). good point. Tho I guess it's easy enough to make them normal tickets for around half of those coachies . more than enough people will be happy to change. It creates more traffic of course, but nothing the area hasn't experienced before. As a one-off special case it'll probably be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said: I've seen the coach question raised before, but I don't think it's an issue really. You'd just have to wear masks on the coach. I say this because I've got the tube, train and bus several times now and there's nothing stopping them being filled to capacity any more. Don't see why coaches now would be any different? Personally I haven't used public transport recently but that's silly. Filling to capacity is not helping and they might as well abandon the distance rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tease Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said: I've seen the coach question raised before, but I don't think it's an issue really. You'd just have to wear masks on the coach. I say this because I've got the tube, train and bus several times now and there's nothing stopping them being filled to capacity any more. Don't see why coaches now would be any different? I didn't realise they'd scrapped the empty seats on public transport, surely they'll bring them back soon?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said: I didn't realise they'd scrapped the empty seats on public transport, surely they'll bring them back soon?! I'd never seen enforced empty seats in London (although I didn't use transport really until June) but there's none of that now. Did see some suggested empty seats on buses out of London but these were just signs, not tape or anything. I've got trains out of London three or four times now and seen no restrictions at all about where to sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) a bit of hope, maybe, via a letter to the Guardian. It'll be interesting to see how the 2nd wave goes in London, cos it might prove this true... ================= Your article (‘Confounding’: Covid may have already peaked in many African countries, 16 September) hints that there may be natural immunity in African countries where Covid-19 has settled down. This is likely to be true, and not just in Africa. If the evidence is closely examined, up to half of the worldwide population may have natural immunity. In none of the natural “experiments” of Sars-CoV-2 exposure within a closed group has the infection rate risen above 50%. In Lombardy, a study of 5,484 individuals who had been exposed by close contact with an infected individual were tested for antibody positivity, with 51.5% testing positive. This hints at pre-existing natural immunity in the population. This has been convincingly demonstrated, with a study in Nature showing that 35% of a population cohort using historical samples had demonstrable CD4 T cell activity against Sars-CoV-2, never having been previously exposed to the new virus. Advertisement The implication is that 35%-50% of the population is naturally immune, and up to 25% antibody prevalence is being approached in some areas of the world (17.5% in London). We could already be approaching 75% immunity in those regions, well within the estimated 60%-80% needed for herd immunity. So, where death rates have settled to historical norms, this would be explicable by natural immunity. We may be closer to the end of this pandemic than we think. Prof Moin Saleem University of Bristol Edited September 25, 2020 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Not sure why people are saying a second wave? It's the same thing, just people have got bored of Boris's bollocks and can't be arsed anymore doing things that aren't helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, eFestivals said: a bit of hope, maybe, via a letter to the Guardian. It'll be interesting to see how the 2nd wave goes in London, cos it might prove this true... ================= Your article (‘Confounding’: Covid may have already peaked in many African countries, 16 September) hints that there may be natural immunity in African countries where Covid-19 has settled down. This is likely to be true, and not just in Africa. If the evidence is closely examined, up to half of the worldwide population may have natural immunity. In none of the natural “experiments” of Sars-CoV-2 exposure within a closed group has the infection rate risen above 50%. In Lombardy, a study of 5,484 individuals who had been exposed by close contact with an infected individual were tested for antibody positivity, with 51.5% testing positive. This hints at pre-existing natural immunity in the population. This has been convincingly demonstrated, with a study in Nature showing that 35% of a population cohort using historical samples had demonstrable CD4 T cell activity against Sars-CoV-2, never having been previously exposed to the new virus. Advertisement The implication is that 35%-50% of the population is naturally immune, and up to 25% antibody prevalence is being approached in some areas of the world (17.5% in London). We could already be approaching 75% immunity in those regions, well within the estimated 60%-80% needed for herd immunity. So, where death rates have settled to historical norms, this would be explicable by natural immunity. We may be closer to the end of this pandemic than we think. Prof Moin Saleem University of Bristol Well, I like Prof Moin Saleem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 8/12/2020 at 7:58 AM, eFestivals said: Only Beardy Folk Festival still standing, I think. Great review Neil - this is what I hoped festivals would do to get by - glad to hear it worked and as you say: "If folkies can stop singing for the sake of the music, then anything is possible." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, thewayiam said: Not sure why people are saying a second wave? It's the same thing, just people have got bored of Boris's bollocks and can't be arsed anymore doing things that aren't helping. second wave, different thing, G614 instead of D614 - https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200925/D614G-mutation-now-the-dominant-variant-in-the-global-COVID-19-pandemic.aspx Edited September 25, 2020 by 5co77ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, 5co77ie said: Great review Neil - this is what I hoped festivals would do to get by - glad to hear it worked and as you say: "If folkies can stop singing for the sake of the music, then anything is possible." whoops - it's not my review. It's James Creaser's. Now corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, eFestivals said: whoops - it's not my review. It's James Creaser's. Now corrected. ah I feel it still applies - we need carnival and culture in any 'new' economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkychick2007 Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Wasn’t sure where to put this so will post on the Glastocam thread as well!’ The pyramid a beacon of hope!!! Wednesday 30th September https://www.lightitinred.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, funkychick2007 said: Wasn’t sure where to put this so will post on the Glastocam thread as well!’ The pyramid a beacon of hope!!! Wednesday 30th September https://www.lightitinred.co.uk/ did you see it when they did it last time ? really spectacular ... not that it isn't normally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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