Future of festivals...

[Leyrulion]

9 hours ago, Memory Man said:

Just thinking this could be a positive sign for non camping day festivals for next year but could be an issue for a 5 day glastonbury where someone could in theory be negative one day before but become infectious during?

I think two negative tests before entry to a camping festival with one 24 hours before or at point of departure. Then the number of people going who would develop an infection over the week would be really low as to not risk a large cluster.  Especially if you had to test afterwards as well.  

All assuming general levels in the community are low or about where they are now.

[foolee]

21 hours ago, zahidf said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-theatres-reopen-with-seat-out-to-help-out-kflrf0jjb?shareToken=89a608c3e58e448b7dc75ab7320b4b49

 

No social distancing in theatres and gig venues by november. But you have to have had a test before and 3 days later.

Does anyone know how much the tests will cost? Because lets say you're going to watch a band for £10-£20 if the test is quite expensive you aren't going to shell out for it to go but you possibly would for something like Glasto.

[eFestivals]

4 minutes ago, foolee said:

Does anyone know how much the tests will cost? Because lets say you're going to watch a band for £10-£20 if the test is quite expensive you aren't going to shell out for it to go but you possibly would for something like Glasto.

it's irrelevant. 

They can't even test everyone that needs a test now on a symptoms basis, and the months-ago promise of testing every care home regularly hasn't started yet. Promises of wonderful new testing regimes are guff.

Oh, and remember, we were promised a world class test, track and trace system by September. It's now September.

[Hugh Jass]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

it's irrelevant. 

They can't even test everyone that needs a test now on a symptoms basis, and the months-ago promise of testing every care home regularly hasn't started yet. Promises of wonderful new testing regimes are guff.

Oh, and remember, we were promised a world class test, track and trace system by September. It's now September.

Did they say which September?

2023 perhaps.

[Fuzzy Afro]

22 hours ago, zahidf said:

Ha! Tbf I'm thinking more for festivals.  Anyway, with the saliva tests, its not a 14 day quanratine. If your negative a few days later, you're good to go

 

22 hours ago, gazzared said:

I dont understand how it would work though, what if you catch covid a few days later ? sorry if Iam missing something

If everyone in the venue has tested negative 3 days before the event, you can be pretty sure that the vast majority of people in there are negative. There might be occasional false negatives or people who’ve caught the virus in the last few days (although the latter is less likely as they probably wouldn’t be contagious yet). But remember this, with any of these measures like overseas quarantine, NHS test and trace, whole household isolation if you test positive etc, there are going to be loopholes, but the idea of them is to reduce the risk of transmission, not to remove it entirely. 

[zahidf]

This will be live if anyone want to watch it

Benn giving evidence will be particularly interesting 

Edited September 7, 2020 by zahidf

[eFestivals]

I have it in my diary to tune in tomorrow.

Melvin has a plan for how stuff can resume correctly, but it has the same problem as it did when he announced it months ago - the lack of a competent govt able to provide sufficient testing.

[Diamond Geezer]

Ill be going to a socially distanced festival next Saturday and am intrigued on how it pans out.

Judging by the comments on the Facebook page, quite a few folk who consider themselves or those who they live with vulnerable have wisely and rightfully said because of this they will not be attending (it is quite an 'old skool' event so there are people over 50 too). People should be doing this until a vaccine is found so events can go ahead, and that healthy, young people are not selfishly denied an opportunity to dance and socialise. 

Ill be taking precautions, such as sanitising my keys and other objects i use to shovel the marching powder up my nose, but apart from that wont be acting much differently to normal in terms of festival behaviour.  

[Mouseboy11]

I do wonder how testing on entry would work in practice for Glastonbury. What if you test negative on entry?  Are you refunded the cost of your ticket? Are you allowed to try and come back on the Thursday? Price is a lot of money for me to risk on the chance I might not be let in.

Edited September 7, 2020 by Mouseboy11

[Diamond Geezer]

Just now, Mouseboy11 said:

I do wonder what the plan how testing on entry would work in practice for Glastonbury. What if you test negative on entry?  Are you refunded the cost of your ticket? Are you allowed to try and come back on the Thursday? Price is a lot of money for me to risk on the chance I might not be let in.

As with sneaking in, the key thing to remember is to be patient if things dont go as expected straight away. Expect to wait around in car parks for many hours until your next decent opportunity to get in occurs. If you have enough determination, you will ALWAYS get into Glastonbury whether you have the problem of no ticket or an annoying virus. 

[Leyrulion]

55 minutes ago, Mouseboy11 said:

I do wonder how testing on entry would work in practice for Glastonbury. What if you test negative on entry?  Are you refunded the cost of your ticket? Are you allowed to try and come back on the Thursday? Price is a lot of money for me to risk on the chance I might not be let in.

It'd have to be test at point of departure.

[Zoo Music Girl]

What would happen to your ticket price though? Would they refund you? Not sure I'd take the chance on 300 quid.

[Hugh Jass]

37 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

What would happen to your ticket price though? Would they refund you? Not sure I'd take the chance on 300 quid.

I suspect there will be an updated version of the T's & C's when tickets are finally issued that say something along the lines of "positive test? Tough." 

[Hugh Jass]

The only other alternative would be to open a ticket exchange for two weeks before the festival starts. Anyone who tests positive, needs to shield, isolate, etc can offer their ticket for sale at face value for someone else to buy. That lucky punter takes some ID to the ticket office to collect a ticket to get them in.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 hour ago, Diamond Geezer said:

 

Ill be taking precautions, such as sanitising my keys and other objects i use to shovel the marching powder up my nose

 

1 hour ago, Diamond Geezer said:

As with sneaking in, the key thing to remember is to be patient if things dont go as expected straight away. Expect to wait around in car parks for many hours until your next decent opportunity to get in occurs. If you have enough determination, you will ALWAYS get into Glastonbury whether you have the problem of no ticket or an annoying virus. 

[fatyeti24]

50 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

What would happen to your ticket price though? Would they refund you? Not sure I'd take the chance on 300 quid.

I don't think the festival is a goer with testing, but in the unlikely* event I'm wrong, they perhaps could offer some sort of insurance.  The amount they'd have to pay back in refused entries would presumably be covered by the numbers who pay but don't need it.  I think I've just explained insurance to myself there, sorry!

*not unlikely

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 hour ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

What would happen to your ticket price though? Would they refund you? Not sure I'd take the chance on 300 quid.

T&C's will state no refund and I'd imagine festival goers would be advised (but not mandated) so minimise contact with people for two weeks beforehand to lower the chance of a positive test

 

[Barney McGrew]

I still reckon it's got to be full fat or not at all, I mean, what happens if critical workers/security/medical staff test positive? Say one of the FMS staff show symptoms on Thursday afternoon are they going to ask the rest to isolate, contact their patients and kick 'em out... plus, ultimately, people are not just going to say ok if they are turned away despite holding a valid ticket, potential chaos at the gates!

All or nothing!

 

[fatyeti24]

26 minutes ago, Barney McGrew said:

I still reckon it's got to be full fat or not at all, I mean, what happens if critical workers/security/medical staff test positive? Say one of the FMS staff show symptoms on Thursday afternoon are they going to ask the rest to isolate, contact their patients and kick 'em out... plus, ultimately, people are not just going to say ok if they are turned away despite holding a valid ticket, potential chaos at the gates!

All or nothing!

 

It can work in your favour though - imagine if Chris Martin tests positive and he and The Guys have to stay away.  There's risk and there's risk.

[gazzared]

3 hours ago, Diamond Geezer said:

As with sneaking in, the key thing to remember is to be patient if things dont go as expected straight away. Expect to wait around in car parks for many hours until your next decent opportunity to get in occurs. If you have enough determination, you will ALWAYS get into Glastonbury whether you have the problem of no ticket or an annoying virus. 

would you still try to break in if it meant you by-passed all the possible extra covid testing that they may implement ?

[Funkyfairy!]

1 hour ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

T&C's will state no refund and I'd imagine festival goers would be advised (but not mandated) so minimise contact with people for two weeks beforehand to lower the chance of a positive test

 

And all the hundreds / thousands of workers who are on site for the months/weeks/ days leading up to the festival , including all the traders etc - its a massive undertaking - and onsite testing for workers could work, but one person goes down and what happens to the rest of the team building/working that area

[Diamond Geezer]

3 minutes ago, gazzared said:

would you still try to break in if it meant you by-passed all the possible extra covid testing that they may implement ?

Definitely- I am young and healthy so covid doesnt really matter much to me. I would probably do my own test a couple of days before, then if it was positive maybe wear a mask all weekend and sleep in my own tent. A bit of a moot point actually as im pretty sure i had it back in April so immune to it now for a good while. 

[gazzared]

6 minutes ago, Funkyfairy! said:

And all the hundreds / thousands of workers who are on site for the months/weeks/ days leading up to the festival , including all the traders etc - its a massive undertaking - and onsite testing for workers could work, but one person goes down and what happens to the rest of the team building/working that area

The more I think about all this testing headace the more I cant see anyway the festival will go ahead unless we have a vaccine, really hope iam wrong.

[gazzared]

7 minutes ago, Diamond Geezer said:

Definitely- I am young and healthy so covid doesnt really matter much to me. I would probably do my own test a couple of days before, then if it was positive maybe wear a mask all weekend and sleep in my own tent. A bit of a moot point actually as im pretty sure i had it back in April so immune to it now for a good while. 

so pleased youre gonna act responsible, also dont foget to get the driver and maybe the passengers of the van that smuggles you in tested, ya know just to be safe.

[stuie]

8 minutes ago, Diamond Geezer said:

Definitely- I am young and healthy so covid doesnt really matter much to me. I would probably do my own test a couple of days before, then if it was positive maybe wear a mask all weekend and sleep in my own tent. A bit of a moot point actually as im pretty sure i had it back in April so immune to it now for a good while. 

Not really the actions of a diamond geezer