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50 minutes ago, Ken19 said:

I think you have to look at bands like Royal Blood, Fontaines, Balthazar, Altin Gun, Paul Kalkbrenner... 

But no guarantee. No big production or Crew. 

Scary lineup

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Yeah, every artist that day had no problem to wear a bracelet. Even Icons like Depeche Mode. But the manager from 30 seconds to Mars refused this. Something that does not happen that often. Jared Leto

All European festivals worked out a solid plan for next year. And they are close to have the support of the governments in this (don't forget, governments earn a lot of money thanks to the festivals).

Swift is more 'rock and roll' than Pink will ever be. 

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1 hour ago, Ken19 said:

I think you have to look at bands like Royal Blood, Fontaines, Balthazar, Altin Gun, Paul Kalkbrenner... 

But no guarantee. No big production or Crew. 

Time for Editors then

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45 minutes ago, thetime said:

Time for Editors then

And Oscar & The Wolf... bands whose production is coordinated by the same people as the production behind RW. 

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3 minutes ago, Ken19 said:

And Oscar & The Wolf... bands whose production is coordinated by the same people as the production behind RW. 

I actually would take that with Editors, Royal Blood, Fontaines, Balthazar, Altin Gun, Paul Kalkbrenner. A 2 day festival first week of september would work for me.

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10 hours ago, Ken19 said:

And Oscar & The Wolf... bands whose production is coordinated by the same people as the production behind RW. 

Really? He did not play since 2019 and there's still no new music out. If true it's exciting 

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They plan to announce the cancellation of the original weekend before the end of March, and at the same time the light version and... 

But I think you’ll be all surprised. 
 

Fingers crossed. Don’t shoot me if you have to wait a little bit longer. But there is really light at the end of the tunnel. We are lucky that a lot of the suppliers are born in the lap of Rock Werchter (stageco, zippola, powershop, ...). 

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22 minutes ago, Ken19 said:

They plan to announce the cancellation of the original weekend before the end of March, and at the same time the light version and... 

But I think you’ll be all surprised. 
 

Fingers crossed. Don’t shoot me if you have to wait a little bit longer. But there is really light at the end of the tunnel. We are lucky that a lot of the suppliers are born in the lap of Rock Werchter (stageco, zippola, powershop, ...). 

Fantastic, do you have a sense of which other festivals might be able to offer Light versions?

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40 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Fantastic, do you have a sense of which other festivals might be able to offer Light versions?

In their latest announcement, Open'er stated that they have an alternative, one-time version in case they need to cancel July dates, and that they cooperate with other European festivals.

It seems logical other festivals should follow with these light versions to make it as profitable as possible for bands that will be available late summer.

On the other hand, Roskilde answered in their today's Q&A that they won't move the festival to later dates.

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36 minutes ago, mln said:

In their latest announcement, Open'er stated that they have an alternative, one-time version in case they need to cancel July dates, and that they cooperate with other European festivals.

It seems logical other festivals should follow with these light versions to make it as profitable as possible for bands that will be available late summer.

On the other hand, Roskilde answered in their today's Q&A that they won't move the festival to later dates.

Roskilde is also still in the market for a light version. But the artists that are available for them are important. That is why Primavera stopped the process, it still has to be a sort of Primavera. 

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25 minutes ago, Ken19 said:

Roskilde is also still in the market for a light version. But the artists that are available for them are important. That is why Primavera stopped the process, it still has to be a sort of Primavera. 

I'm 90% sure Primavera will run a decent sized event in c. September. They just won't call it Primavera Sound.

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21 minutes ago, xxialac said:

I'm 90% sure Primavera will run a decent sized event in c. September. They just won't call it Primavera Sound.

Yeah, I just mean the full run festival. That is also the communication that RW will do: it is not a normal RW so you can transfer your tickets to 2022 and 2023, but we have some fine alternative if you want. 

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2 hours ago, Ken19 said:

They plan to announce the cancellation of the original weekend before the end of March, and at the same time the light version and... 

But I think you’ll be all surprised. 
 

Fingers crossed. Don’t shoot me if you have to wait a little bit longer. But there is really light at the end of the tunnel. We are lucky that a lot of the suppliers are born in the lap of Rock Werchter (stageco, zippola, powershop, ...). 

At least PJ is expected to announce before end of March, as their deadline for ticket refunds end 1st April. Doubt they‘ll let that date pass without a word. A lot of people would hold on to tickets if they‘d new new dates for 2022 I think.

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12 minutes ago, Ken19 said:

Yeah, I just mean the full run festival. That is also the communication that RW will do: it is not a normal RW so you can transfer your tickets to 2022 and 2023, but we have some fine alternative if you want. 

Yep, exactly. I thought exactly the same!

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41 minutes ago, Karlos12345 said:

At least PJ is expected to announce before end of March, as their deadline for ticket refunds end 1st April. Doubt they‘ll let that date pass without a word. A lot of people would hold on to tickets if they‘d new new dates for 2022 I think.

Makes sense 

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14 minutes ago, Ken19 said:

Makes sense 

Would make even more sense for them & RW to announce 2022 dates immediately after 2021 fiasco 😛

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What would make us keep our tickets, honestly ? (except fidelity). I have 4 festivals booked for 2021, and I only need 2 things to be sure I keep them : 1) dates and 2) the LINE UP !

If a festival give you like 80-90% of the 2022 line-up, you can be sure that it will motivate people to keep their tickets. If RW is smart enough to give the famous trio of headliners Ken was talking about ( was it Metallica - RATM and Red hot chilli peppers ?), you can be sure that the majority will keep their tickets for 2022.

However, since I guess many artists (maybe all of them actually lol..) will be available for festivals in 2022, I wonder if RW is thinking about adding 1 or 2 days to their fest', or even making TWO festivals ..

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14 hours ago, Matt86 said:

What would make us keep our tickets, honestly ? (except fidelity). I have 4 festivals booked for 2021, and I only need 2 things to be sure I keep them : 1) dates and 2) the LINE UP !

If a festival give you like 80-90% of the 2022 line-up, you can be sure that it will motivate people to keep their tickets. If RW is smart enough to give the famous trio of headliners Ken was talking about ( was it Metallica - RATM and Red hot chilli peppers ?), you can be sure that the majority will keep their tickets for 2022.

However, since I guess many artists (maybe all of them actually lol..) will be available for festivals in 2022, I wonder if RW is thinking about adding 1 or 2 days to their fest', or even making TWO festivals ..

The town of Werchter has put a limitation to the number of event days per year though. So adding a day, yes, but an extra festival won't happen.

I wouldn't be surprised if some artists (originally booked for 2020) decide to just skip touring for now and return to Europe once they have a new album coming out. Best Kept Secret already implied that they're refunding all 20/21 ticket holders because the poster might look completely different. 

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astrazeneca ist stopped by basically every country.....we will be lucky if we can have something in 2022 believe me, call me pessimistic etc it was the same the last year when people said in 2021 there won't be festivals, europe is too far from vaccinate enough people and the virus variations are many and dangerous

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12 minutes ago, Ale said:

astrazeneca ist stopped by basically every country.....we will be lucky if we can have something in 2022 believe me, call me pessimistic etc it was the same the last year when people said in 2021 there won't be festivals, europe is too far from vaccinate enough people and the virus variations are many and dangerous

But at the same time: Johnsson & Johnsson has of now been given a GO. 😉 

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4 hours ago, Ale said:

astrazeneca ist stopped by basically every country.....we will be lucky if we can have something in 2022 believe me, call me pessimistic etc it was the same the last year when people said in 2021 there won't be festivals, europe is too far from vaccinate enough people and the virus variations are many and dangerous

Sorry but how is 2-3 countries „basically evey country“? There‘s literally millions with AZ already in their bodies. Those cases are not going to change anything, although tragic in every single case. Find me a drug that has no side effects. We are talking single cases in millions of delivered doses.

Let‘s try some optimism.

EDIT: Before you ask: I‘d take a Danish dose right now, without hesitation. Unfortunately my government prefers to store millions of AZ in fridges and discuss rules and bureaucracy instead.

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8 hours ago, Ale said:

astrazeneca ist stopped by basically every country.....we will be lucky if we can have something in 2022 believe me, call me pessimistic etc it was the same the last year when people said in 2021 there won't be festivals, europe is too far from vaccinate enough people and the virus variations are many and dangerous

Have a very likely info that mass events wouldn't take part until the end of 2022. Comes from a person who works in pharmacy.

Won't buy any ticket until  is 90% sure that festivals will go on.

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