Rock Werchter 2021

[gingerevans84 6]

Have Coldplay been ruled out?

[Archi 42]

5 minutes ago, gingerevans84 said:

Have Coldplay been ruled out?

Seems they're too expensive for a festival. It's more interesting to put them on a one-off show (Werchter Boutique or Stade Roi Baudouin).

[RubenFrusciante 21]

4 minutes ago, lighthouse said:

Of course they exist. There's surely a lot of younger people that love, for instance, RHCP (;-)). But let's face it: if these 3 are indeed you main headliners, you better prepare yourself for a huge raise in age on the field. People who camp in front of the main stage, picknick blankets on the ground.

And no: intentionally not booking The Strokes and Kendrick, when they are around, is not OK. It shouldn't be 'understandable'. And to be fair, I don't believe RW is that low-hearted. Like Ken said, Kendrick was an accident. They tried a lot of options to rebook him. Of course you need a PJ and RHCP for the ticket sales, but it's the more special headliners like The Strokes or Kendrick that make the lineup shine. Werchter is not Pinkpop. 

I agree regardings to The Strokes, but they just didn't sell well, and Metallica will.. Rock Werchter is a business.

I just don't see the problem if it happens only this year, due to the pandemic. Just a guarantee tickets will sell good. Why can't they have PJ, RHCP, Metallica this year and next year a mix of rocknames together with acts like Kendrick, Billie Eilish, Tame Impala andso? Is it because you are so pissed about this year's line up, that you eventually won't consider go to RW2022?

The option to save your credit for RW2022 won't be there for no reason.

And repeating endlessly 'Kendrick and The Strokes make the line up shine', just your opinion..

[Archi 42]

If lot of people are disappointed, it's especially because 2020 was cancelled and they expected to have the same line-up, at least for headliners and other big names. Here, Kendrick Lamar is out, The Strokes seems out, System Of A Down is out, Volbeat is out. So 4 headliners out from the 6 announced. 

[Nicklord 227]

That's why refunds and rolling over your ticket to 2022 are options. Rock Werchter isn't the only option out there 

[lighthouse 284]

36 minutes ago, RubenFrusciante said:

I agree regardings to The Strokes, but they just didn't sell well, and Metallica will.. Rock Werchter is a business.

C'mon, Ruben. The day The Strokes were playing was horrible thus far. Even me as a big Strokes fan would have doubted to buy a day ticket if I hadn't bought a combi ticket. That day needed another headliner the tent headliners. The biggest name announced name in the tents was Archive... 

[RubenFrusciante 21]

4 minutes ago, lighthouse said:

C'mon, Ruben. The day The Strokes were playing was horrible thus far. Even me as a big Strokes fan would have doubted to buy a day ticket if I hadn't bought a combi ticket. That day needed another headliner the tent headliners. The biggest name announced name in the tents was Archive... 

I understand and I agree with you on that but you can't deny that with whatsoever day programme, Metallica will sell better than The Strokes. Metallica doesn't need 'another headliner'. From the organization's point of view, it wouldn't be strange to put Metallica there instead of The Strokes. 

[lighthouse 284]

1 minute ago, RubenFrusciante said:

I understand and I agree with you on that but you can't deny that with whatsoever day programme, Metallica will sell better than The Strokes. Metallica doesn't need 'another headliner'. From the organization's point of view, it wouldn't be strange to put Metallica there instead of The Strokes. 

I think we more or less understand each other, except for me giving RW the benefit of the doubt in doing such a thing. 

[brightside23 16]

I was actually hoping for some smaller/newer metal acts like Architects or Gojira. Is Metallica headlining making them more or less likely?

I do think the festival should look to branch out with the undercard. Get some mix of metal/hip-hop/electro to spice things up and don't just overload with pop/soft-rock/indie which most days usually get on the main stage. If for example there was a decent metal band in the undercard on each day, it would get the SOAD crowd interested anyway and maybe give a chance to Kendrick instead of having to get Metallica to headline to attract those people. Same thing for Kendrick fans if they had other artists over the weekend and not just depending on one name.

Edited December 10, 2020 by brightside23

[Daniel Ferreira 47]

3 hours ago, johnybegood said:

I don't know about Belgium, but In Spain a line-up with Pearl Jam, Metallica and RHCP, would sell tons and tons of tickets.

Here in Portugal the festival sold out in two days at most. In 2018, when NOS Alive announced the PJ, the daily and general sales were soon over, we are talking about a venue of 50 thousand people.

Edited December 10, 2020 by Daniel Ferreira

[Archi 42]

9 minutes ago, brightside23 said:

I was actually hoping for some smaller/newer metal acts like Architects or Gojira. Is Metallica headlining making them more or less likely?

I do think the festival should look to branch out with the undercard. Get some mix of metal/hip-hop/electro to spice things up and don't just overload with pop/soft-rock/indie which most days usually get on the main stage. If for example there was a decent metal band in the undercard on each day, it would get the SOAD crowd interested anyway and maybe give a chance to Kendrick instead of having to get Metallica to headline to attract those people. Same thing for Kendrick fans if they had other artists over the weekend and not just depending on one name.

For last year, @Ken19 said the festival were in negociations with Gojira but finally they booked the Ancienne Belgique (2000 tickets sold in 10 minutes). For 2021, they are back at Graspop. I won't be surprised if Gojira play at RW in 2022. Same for Architects. Their new album will be more in rock vibes and they have a great success now to play early on Main Stage. In 2019, RW booked Parkway Drive. It would be great for RW to bring a few more heavy acts... but sad for GMM.

[mashinko 7]

20 hours ago, Ken19 said:

The big Friday headliner will it not be. They want to announce all their dates the same moment. 

I’m not sure about the strokes, you can not put them together with this new Friday headliner. Curious how this will work out. 

That new headliner, will they play other rock festivals like Nova Rock, Rock Am Ring, Download...? 

[BlackFoxx 53]

17 minutes ago, mashinko said:

That new headliner, will they play other rock festivals like Nova Rock, Rock Am Ring, Download...? 

Those festivals all have their headliners already don't they?

[Archi 42]

21 minutes ago, mashinko said:

That new headliner, will they play other rock festivals like Nova Rock, Rock Am Ring, Download...? 

These festivals already have all their headliners. Only a few major festivals have to confirm at least one more headliner: Pinkpop, Graspop... who else?

Seems this headliner won't be playing lot of other festivals. 

Edited December 10, 2020 by Archi

[misterplow 20]

Just now, Archi said:

These festivals already have all their headliners. Only a few major festivals have to confirm at least one more headliner: Pinkpop, Graspop... who else?

Roskilde, Opener? But those 2 will (hopefully) confirming Kendrick Lamar (for Roskilde) and The Cure (for Opener). NOS Alive also needs to confirm Kendrick I think. Glastonbury is a bit mysterious atm. Taylor Swift dropping another new album tonight makes me think she'll do the odd show. 

But what is this awful talk about The Strokes not returning? They're playing Roskilde on saturday of RW so they are definitely around. It's the most important band on the lineup for me.

[mln 102]

2 minutes ago, misterplow said:

Roskilde, Opener? But those 2 will (hopefully) confirming Kendrick Lamar (for Roskilde) and The Cure (for Opener)

Roskilde and Open'er are both missing two headliners.

[Daniel Ferreira 47]

8 minutes ago, Archi said:

These festivals already have all their headliners. Only a few major festivals have to confirm at least one more headliner: Pinkpop, Graspop... who else?

Seems this headliner won't be playing lot of other festivals. 

Glastonbury ?

[mashinko 7]

I know that, but I'm asking because I'm not sure that Metallica will go on Europe tour and not playing mentioned festivals. At last two concerts in Vienna at the end of the concert Lars said "We are part of the Nova Rock family and we will see you soon" and I know that they really like to play in Austria and Nova Rock

Edited December 10, 2020 by mashinko

[Mondo-kun 42]

1 hour ago, Archi said:

These festivals already have all their headliners. Only a few major festivals have to confirm at least one more headliner: Pinkpop, Graspop... who else?

Seems this headliner won't be playing lot of other festivals. 

Lollapalooza Stockholm (same weekend as RW) also has only one headliner announced, Pearl Jam. The Killers, Post Malone and Kendrick Lamar also were supposed to play 2020 edition, don't know if promoters will keep all of them for 2021.

[misterplow 20]

14 minutes ago, Mondo-kun said:

The Killers, Post Malone and Kendrick Lamar also were supposed to play

All 3 are touring next year, so that seems like a pretty safe one. 

[Archi 42]

I missed a few festivals indeed! About Metallica, they could tour 2 Summers in a row. In 2021, only make stadiums and give 2-3 festivals an exclusivity like Rock Werchter and then do a festivals tour in 2022.

[mashinko 7]

And then in 2022 killer combo on festivals Metallica + RATM

[misterplow 20]

23 minutes ago, Archi said:

I missed a few festivals indeed! About Metallica, they could tour 2 Summers in a row. In 2021, only make stadiums and give 2-3 festivals an exclusivity like Rock Werchter and then do a festivals tour in 2022.

Stadium shows in the first half of 2021 seems a bit optimistic. Not in the last place because of the EC football. 

[Archi 42]

9 minutes ago, misterplow said:

Stadium shows in the first half of 2021 seems a bit optimistic. Not in the last place because of the EC football. 

Big shows in stadium. Big shows in festival. Big shows in arena. It's difficult to imagine all of them right now for Summer 2021 anyway. Some for the Euro. It was just an idea  

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