philipsteak Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Homer said: Bit of a mixed bag really I guess. Sunday was a good example. Compere tried to riff with the crowd and wasn't funny. Nathon Caton was all fairly hack (I guess) observational stuff about being in lockdown with your partner (I did find it funny though). And Milton Jones (if you're not aware) just does a stream of quick puns, so the same act as pre-Covid. One annoying change is it all feels a bit rushed now as they often don't have intervals. I quite like at comedy, particularly on a Sunday night, settling in with a bottle of wine for the night and building the evening up. Whereas generally now they all just come on back to back and you're done in an hour. @zahidfmay have more to offer than me on all this. 3 hours ago, zahidf said: I found it the same tbh. Kevin bridges and Phil wang did post lockdown stuff. Aisling bea pre lockdown stuff. It is a bit more rushed but I generally don't like stuff lasting too long! Cheers. Kind of as I thought it would be. I normally watch a lot of live comedy. More than music. There's a few good venues within an hour or so of me that between them get a lot of very good stuff. I think if somewhere opened safely I would go but not expect too much. It's almost more be in solidarity with the venue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, zahidf said: If it started out with an IFR of 0.4%, i wonder if our response would have been different? H5N1 bird flu has a mortality rate of 60%, doesn't bare thinking about how fucked we'd be if a virus significantly more dangerous than Covid-19 such as H5N1 or Ebola became pandemic. In some ways I hope Western governments can use Covid-19 to learn lessons for the inevitable more dangerous pandemic that will happen. 3000 coronaviruses are circulating in bats and in China, there is so much deforestation of bat habitats leading to these viruses making the jump into humans. It's only a matter of time before we see a much more lethal one. And hopefully Covid-19 teaches us how to deal with that challenge when it presents itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said: Interesting comment from Valance yesterday that 50,000 cases per day would lead to 200 deaths per day. They now think the IFR is 0.4% whereas in the past we were thinking it was more like 1%. I guess "Long covid" is a bigger issue than the IFR now. I guess now 0.4% because of that steroid with a long name that starts with d...and other treatments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, Fuzzy Afro said: H5N1 bird flu has a mortality rate of 60%, doesn't bare thinking about how fucked we'd be if a virus significantly more dangerous than Covid-19 such as H5N1 or Ebola became pandemic. In some ways I hope Western governments can use Covid-19 to learn lessons for the inevitable more dangerous pandemic that will happen. 3000 coronaviruses are circulating in bats and in China, there is so much deforestation of bat habitats leading to these viruses making the jump into humans. It's only a matter of time before we see a much more lethal one. And hopefully Covid-19 teaches us how to deal with that challenge when it presents itself. you read Station Eleven?...about a virus that wipes out most of humanity. I read it just before this pandemic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, steviewevie said: you read Station Eleven?...about a virus that wipes out most of humanity. I read it just before this pandemic! No but I did watch the 2011 film "Contagion" a few months back. Some striking similarities there, but again much higher mortality rate of 20%-30%. Of course this is all literature. In practice it would be very hard for a virus to kill most of its hosts but still maintain a high R number. The only way it could theoretically work is if you have something that lays dormant in your body for a very long period of time but spreads asymptomatically, and then absolutely fucks you up after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tease Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, zahidf said: If it started out with an IFR of 0.4%, i wonder if our response would have been different? No because its hospital admissions that counts- if hospitals get overloaded then the mortality rate increases vastly because people who otherwise would have survived with treatment, would die. Plus the treatments learned in the first wave is why the IFR is lower (they check for clots, can use oxygen instead of incubation etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: I guess now 0.4% because of that steroid with a long name that starts with d...and other treatments... Dexamethasone. Makes you very hungry. Never eaten so much in my life before when I was taking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 We are getting a lot of polls this week apparently, this is the first. Will any show a Labour lead!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, zahidf said: Oh dear I'm a little confused. Has he tried to hit Hyde with a zinger, and just ended up confirming that he, Michael Gove, is also sick of Michael Gove? Or has he actually developed self-awareness and realised what an odious little twerp he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tease Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Ozanne said: We are getting a lot of polls this week apparently, this is the first. Will any show a Labour lead!? Tory floor seems to be 40% since they absorbed the ukippers, which is worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Quark said: I'm a little confused. Has he tried to hit Hyde with a zinger, and just ended up confirming that he, Michael Gove, is also sick of Michael Gove? Or has he actually developed self-awareness and realised what an odious little twerp he is? self loathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 52 minutes ago, steviewevie said: all you have to do is repeatedly say you love your countrym wave the union jack, make an effort when singing the national anthem, praise our military services endlessly.... Don't forget publically stating your willingness to vaporise entire cities in other countries.... 9 minutes ago, zahidf said: Oh dear 3 minutes ago, Quark said: I'm a little confused. Has he tried to hit Hyde with a zinger, and just ended up confirming that he, Michael Gove, is also sick of Michael Gove? Or has he actually developed self-awareness and realised what an odious little twerp he is? Must've been to the James Blunt Twitter school... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said: Tory floor seems to be 40% since they absorbed the ukippers, which is worrying For now... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ozanne said: For now... 😉 Yeah I feel at least a couple of percentage points will change when the unicorns arrive and they're just horses with paper horns strapped on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, Quark said: I'm a little confused. Has he tried to hit Hyde with a zinger, and just ended up confirming that he, Michael Gove, is also sick of Michael Gove? Or has he actually developed self-awareness and realised what an odious little twerp he is? I think he's trying to "win Twitter" like James Blunt, but he's fallen flat on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: Must've been to the James Blunt Twitter school... Beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: Yeah I feel at least a couple of percentage points will change when the unicorns arrive and they're just horses with paper horns strapped on... I’m gonna go out on a limb, one poll this week will show a Labour lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ozanne said: I’m gonna go out on a limb, one poll this week will show a Labour lead. Will that be your own poll by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fraybentos1 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ozanne said: I’m gonna go out on a limb, one poll this week will show a Labour lead. A few of the recent ones have had Lab and Tory neck and neck so I defo think this is possible. Maybe a Labour 41 and Tory 39 type poll is on the horizon. It's all within margin of error anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 I just want Johnson to come out and explain the rationale behind the 10pm closure and the expected impact it will have in terms of virus control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 I’m taking an early lunch today, is Bojos Blathering on tv or the web at 12:30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, zahidf said: Great news for @FestivalJamie Edited September 22, 2020 by Fuzzy Afro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace56blaa Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, zahidf said: So seeming like the plan is to tighten up restrictions as much as possible, without closing anything. If compliance wasn't already low this could have worked. But alas, I can already hear the house parties and anti maskers, doesn't help that Gove seems to do a press tour every time a measure is announced, to contradict the rest of the government and downplay the severity, I wish these people didn't start the tory campaign with a blood orgy drug rest ritual pact, so that someone can actually get fired at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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