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7 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

I'll be the first to admit I'll break the rules over Christmas if it remains at 6.

Would I forsake seeing my Nan on her first Christmas without her husband of 60 years? Tradition is for the whole family to meet at their house during the morning. No chance would I miss that.

Would I forsake my parents / in laws all spending the day with my daughter whom is all of their first grandchild? No way.

You’re undoubtedly not going to be alone on that one, my Grandad is in very poor health and my Nan has been under a lot of stress looking after him at the moment and a visit at Christmas would be mentally beneficial for them both, if we had the chance we’d visit them (we’d probably stay outside and bring them a Christmas dinner) - on a similar note though it’s logistically impossible to stop 65 million people from seeing their families during the period so I think they will end up doing a temporary bubble amount of 10 and d a U turn so it doesn’t include children, as has been said it would be great PR for them to have ‘saved Christmas’ and if they can’t then theyll be forever heckled by people and the media as grinches

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Trust me I fully understand why people would feel ‘fuck it’ at Christmas, it would be really tough to split families apart. Say infection rates are how they were in April for arguments sake, how would that be managed at that time?

I think a lot more would follow any rules that we might think. If things are bad at that stage then I have faith people would follow any rules that might be in place. 

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I won't be going to my parents on Christmas Day if things are locked down again and they wouldn't want me too either. They are both 70 and they have the same opinion as me regarding Christmas dinner... It's just another bloody roast dinner on some fake guys fake birthday 😂

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3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

What I think my point is, that the Government might not have much of a choice?

I think a different logic is needed. We won't get a huge spike in infections if people just go visit family and stay there. They just need to be pushing other stuff, don't go to the pub if you do that, work at home if you do that, maybe make 29th and 30th bank holidays to keep more businesses closed.

I don't think what works now will work at Christmas, but I think there are things that will work at Christmas that won't work now.

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9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

What I think my point is, that the Government might not have much of a choice?

You reckon by December, we'll be having an April-esque peak? If that happens then you might be right that they have to cancel Christmas to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed.

 

3,395 cases today. 16% up on last Thursday which is a damned sight better than yesterday's 3,991 which was 50% up on the previous Wednesday. I do worry that there are a lot more hidden infections due to this testing fuck up though.

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6 minutes ago, gazzared said:

I won't be going to my parents on Christmas Day if things are locked down again and they wouldn't want me too either. They are both 70 and they have the same opinion as me regarding Christmas dinner... It's just another bloody roast dinner on some fake guys fake birthday 😂

It's a bloody good dinner though

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8 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

You reckon by December, we'll be having an April-esque peak? If that happens then you might be right that they have to cancel Christmas to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed.

 

3,395 cases today. 16% up on last Thursday which is a damned sight better than yesterday's 3,991 which was 50% up on the previous Wednesday. I do worry that there are a lot more hidden infections due to this testing fuck up though.

Oh no I used April just for arguments sake, as a possible worst case scenario. To be honest I don’t really know what cases will be like, I think they’ll be high in the winter but how high I’m not sure. 
 

14 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I think a different logic is needed. We won't get a huge spike in infections if people just go visit family and stay there. They just need to be pushing other stuff, don't go to the pub if you do that, work at home if you do that, maybe make 29th and 30th bank holidays to keep more businesses closed.

I don't think what works now will work at Christmas, but I think there are things that will work at Christmas that won't work now.

I don’t mean that people visiting family will cause a spike, I mean if there is a large rise in cases at December the Gov might not have much choice but to tighten things down before the Christmas period and going through it. 

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1 minute ago, ace56blaa said:

When will we know if these daily new cases data is correct. I just can't buy that cases haven't increased today. Any thoughts or tips for accurate data rn?

Well it's factual that 3,395 people tested positive which is significantly fewer than yesterday, but the question is how many covid positive people are unable to get a test right now.

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3 minutes ago, ace56blaa said:

When will we know if these daily new cases data is correct. I just can't buy that cases haven't increased today. Any thoughts or tips for accurate data rn?

yeah, can't say for sure...and won't know until they get the testing capacity sorted. So, just have to take these case numbers for what they are, and look at hospitalisation and death rates...which I think are still low..?

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3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yeah, can't say for sure...and won't know until they get the testing capacity sorted. So, just have to take these case numbers for what they are, and look at hospitalisation and death rates...which I think are still low..?

actually deaths are 21...creeping up a bit...? Is that where we were mid March?

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1 hour ago, DeanoL said:

I mean there's still a chance he says "fuck it" and doesn't do anything at all, but there's no way he's going to tell people they can't see their family at Christmas. It's just not his brand. 

They can see their family at Christmas, but only in a pub at 120 quid a head.

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