When will this shit end?

[Toilet Duck]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

one of the reasons they were reluctant to go into full lockdown in UK in early/mid March maybe...? Behavioural science and all that.

Yeah, there are behavioural scientists on SAGE (and on our version of it) and the timing of lockdown certainly incorporated input on that front. Again, that's a hard balance, evidence from elsewhere suggests going early reduces deaths, the big question is whether it leads to bigger second waves! (or do you go early again and hope to repeat til a vaccine, treatment or more useful test comes along...)

[Fuzzy Afro]

NE restrictions to be announced by Matt Hancock at 11:30

[Ozanne]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

one of the reasons they were reluctant to go into full lockdown in UK in early/mid March maybe...? Behavioural science and all that.

I don’t think that was the case in the end as that type of thing ‘doesn’t exist’.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-behavioural-fatigue-uk-lockdown-delay-science-chris-witty-robert-west-a9644971.html%3famp

[Quark]

41 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said:

Cheers fella. Nice to have a bit of scientific opinion to back up my bullshit!

I think that makes you an enabler!

Oh god, we'll never hear the end of how a proper scientist agreed with you.

[JoeyT]

 

[steviewevie]

Nevada reinfection case highlights the enduring mysteries of Covid-19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/17/nevada-reinfection-case-highlights-mysteries-covid-19

[Fuzzy Afro]

What on Earth is a “theoretical” epidemiologist? 

[eFestivals]

52 minutes ago, WestCountryGirl said:

The first lockdown was indefinite

not really. The original suggestion was for 3 weeks.

[Toilet Duck]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I don’t think that was the case in the end as that type of thing ‘doesn’t exist’.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-behavioural-fatigue-uk-lockdown-delay-science-chris-witty-robert-west-a9644971.html%3famp

Interesting! The behavioural change subgroup of our version of SAGE specifically mentioned it and identified a minority (estimated at about 15%) who would have difficulty accepting the restrictions and the timelines for them and recommended messaging specifically targeting them (and this has been the approach used...how well it's working is another matter!). Pretty early on they were talking about behavioural change resilience and the support measures they could put in place to ensure this. Changes in risk perception and behavioural fatigue are discussed at most of their meetings (agendas and minutes are publicly available). But, I'm no behavioural scientist!

[eFestivals]

4 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

What on Earth is a “theoretical” epidemiologist? 

one that doesn't have to take the blame for their theories.  

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

What on Earth is a “theoretical” epidemiologist? 

herd mentalist.

[steviewevie]

 

[Crazyfool01]

Like ... anyone seen these ? 
 

 

[efcfanwirral]

 

26 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

NE restrictions to be announced by Matt Hancock at 11:30

Probably worth repeating - how are they getting stricter measures than the North West? Liverpool/Wirral are worse than some of those North East areas, and we know the state of the Manchester area at the moment. Baffling decision making

[Fuzzy Afro]

From tomorrow in the North East:

 

- No socialising outside households

 

- Hospitality table service only and must close between 10pm-5am

[JoeyT]

Ladies and Gents, my local MP 

 

[efcfanwirral]

11 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

From tomorrow in the North East:

 

- No socialising outside households

 

- Hospitality table service only and must close between 10pm-5am

It astounded me that this hasn't been the case the whole time. Too European maybe, and will put off the Brexit types same as masks in pubs when not at your table (who are more likely to think it's a hoax and go out to spend)? I just assumed that is what the rules would be 

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, efcfanwirral said:

It astounded me that this hasn't been the case the whole time. Too European maybe, and will put off the Brexit types same as masks in pubs when not at your table (who are more likely to think it's a hoax and go out to spend)? I just assumed that is what the rules would be 

I’m pretty sure it was already the case (even if widely ignored) but either way Hancock specifically mentioned it in his statement. 

[fatyeti24]

10 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

Ladies and Gents, my local MP 

 

Stop voting for him Joey! FFS

[efcfanwirral]

4 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I’m pretty sure it was already the case (even if widely ignored) but either way Hancock specifically mentioned it in his statement. 

I have been to quite a few round here in the past few weeks (just to sit outside) and only one offered table service only and insisted on it. If it was the case everywhere it would've meant multiple less trips indoors for many people, albeit only for a brief couple of minutes each time. It seems crowding round a bar is very much part of British culture....

Edited September 17, 2020 by efcfanwirral

[Ozanne]

Someone on the shadow front bench has had enough 😂

[zahidf]

 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

Someone on the shadow front bench has had enough 😂

Doing a JRM ? 

[Freddyflintstonree]

30 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

Probably worth repeating - how are they getting stricter measures than the North West? Liverpool/Wirral are worse than some of those North East areas, and we know the state of the Manchester area at the moment. Baffling decision making

As someone in the North West, I am also baffled. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Interestingly I downloaded ZOE for the first time today and had a browse and it thinks that certain parts of Scotland are doing worse than NW England