When will this shit end?

[Leyrulion]

45 minutes ago, ShakeyCrash said:

Part of me also thinks that it’s all gone quiet on the oxford vaccine front and wonders why.  Is this good news (e.g. if it doesn’t work they would have binned it by now), bad news (someone, somewhere would be jumping for joy if it actually worked), or no news?

Had dinner with a friend who's working on it. When I pushed all they said was that the patient information leaflets for the trials state that with a booster it gives 100% immunity. Pending any unexpected side effects it'll be ready for March. 

[vintagelaureate]

1 hour ago, FestivalJamie said:

Why do my posts need to be approved my a moderator now? Was that just a glitch or did I do something wrong ☹️

it'll be to do with 'short links", they're picked up by the spam filters. It happened to me 2 or 3 days a few weeks ago. 

[gizmoman]

36 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

So he went against the media fear narrative and got completely shut down. They seemed to basically laugh at him for saying things aren't really that bad, and treat him like some mad conspiracy theorist.

The media are not helping really as there are hysterical headlines every time cases go up even slightly, but I guess they make a lot of money from all this. I just wish there was some more balanced reporting 

They certainly didn't treat him as one of the front-line heroes of the health service, no claps for him! Not only did he diss the media he also got in the unreliability of the PCR test, the possibility of herd immunity and the need for a vaccine, and the financial incentives to restricting healthcare and selling vaccines, all controversial stuff, they won't be interviewing him again any time soon!

[stuartbert two hats]

59 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

Had dinner with a friend who's working on it. When I pushed all they said was that the patient information leaflets for the trials state that with a booster it gives 100% immunity. Pending any unexpected side effects it'll be ready for March. 

March? 

Edited August 23, 2020 by stuartbert two hats

[efcfanwirral]

 

22 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

March? 

cutting it fine! I guess if they release that it WILL be coming at some point before then, it gives us more of a chance....

[Homer]

2 hours ago, Matt42 said:

Negative Nellie but I don’t think we will have a gigantic second wave per say. But I think this current period that we are in now is probably what we will have to get used to for a while. I can see them bringing in some sort of family rule for Christmas, that you can’t have a family gathering above a certain number or something.

It will be bullshit but its 100% something I can see this Tory government introducing. Then there will obviously be some flouters of the rules on the front pages of the papers, and some celebrity who gets in hot water for holding a mass gathering Christmas party.

I’m not a prophet I promise, but I can’t see things loosening before Christmas. They will introduce some stupid Christmas rule that plenty of people will break.

Things seem pretty sweet to me at the moment (from a what we are allowed to go perspective). Can go out and play football, go to the gym, go to the cinema, go out for dinner, watch sport and nip to the odd pub and comedy night/exhibition. That's pretty much my normal life anyway.

[Toilet Duck]

2 hours ago, crazyfool1 said:

I suppose whilst its tested at the various stages they won't release any data to show how its going ? and they can only do that at the end of the various stages when they have completed full data analysis ..... @Toilet Duck ? 

Nothing to worry about on the Oxford vaccine front, they are deep in their phase 3, so nothing expected for a while yet. They hoped there might be a signal in terms of efficacy in September/October, but entirely dependent on how much of the virus is circulating in the countries where the trials are ongoing. I’d say they’ll have an idea this side of Christmas and all being good, the doses being made now could be rolled out by Spring. You never know though! 

[henry bear]

Us lot, next Spring

 

[zahidf]

12 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

Nothing to worry about on the Oxford vaccine front, they are deep in their phase 3, so nothing expected for a while yet. They hoped there might be a signal in terms of efficacy in September/October, but entirely dependent on how much of the virus is circulating in the countries where the trials are ongoing. I’d say they’ll have an idea this side of Christmas and all being good, the doses being made now could be rolled out by Spring. You never know though! 

What do you make of the Pfizer vaccine results which came out?

[stuartbert two hats]

The vaccine should be rolled out in the following order:

1. Michael Eavis
2. Festival site builders
3. Glastonbury ticket holders
4. Healthcare workers
5. Old people + high risk groups
6. Key workers
7. Everyone else

Sound about right?

[Toilet Duck]

16 minutes ago, zahidf said:

What do you make of the Pfizer vaccine results which came out?

I haven’t looked closely at them yet, but I was talking time a mate in Chicago who works with the RNA vaccines and he’s hugely impressed (and not the kind of guy who is impressed easily!).

[dotdash79]

11 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

The vaccine should be rolled out in the following order:

1. Michael Eavis
2. Festival site builders
3. Glastonbury ticket holders
4. Healthcare workers
5. Old people + high risk groups
6. Key workers
7. Everyone else

Sound about right?

Sounds good but also staff and volunteers working at Glastonbury 

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, dotdash79 said:

Sounds good but also staff and volunteers working at Glastonbury 

Of course! Silly me.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Of course! Silly me.

And the bands themselves? 

[dotdash79]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

And the bands themselves? 

Covered by my statement 

[kalifire]

Over here in Melbourne, today marked the halfway point in our current lockdown scenario (can't be outside of home for longer than 60 minutes a day, can't be more than 5km from home during that time, curfew between 8pm and 5am).

It's a gruelling slog, this. The numbers have fallen from the peak of 700+ each day, but are still around 200, and we're now at the point the lockdown should be impacting the numbers, so seeing it in triple figures isn't encouraging.

[Ozanne]

U.K. figures for 23rd August.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1040 last Sunday so a wafer thin increase in the 7 day average

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

1040 last Sunday so a wafer thin increase in the 7 day average

We do seem to be keeping it around 1000 at the moment and the testing seems high too fingers crossed to be able to maintain that ... 

[steviewevie]

Autumn is coming

[steviewevie]

Bye bye Scotland

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/23/covid-19-crisis-breakup-uk-brexit-pandemic-scottish-independence

[Homer]

Not clicked the link for the obvious reason - but even the S@n have run a big 'exclusive' on the dangers of a second wave combined with a no deal.

[Fuzzy Afro]

18 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

We do seem to be keeping it around 1000 at the moment and the testing seems high too fingers crossed to be able to maintain that ... 

I would imagine exponential growth will be prevented but the R number may settle around 1.2 or 1.3 once the schools open. I reckon they might try and extend the Manchester restrictions nationwide and ban indoor socialising as an attempt to get it back down to 1 before the last resort of closing pubs. I don’t think we’ll see a full blown second wave like in March/April though. Social distancing being in place will prevent an R number getting anyway near 2.5-4.0 like it was at the start. 

[steviewevie]

Won't we get exponential growth with R above 1?

[parsonjack]

3 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:

The vaccine should be rolled out in the following order:

1. Michael Eavis
2. Festival site builders
3. Glastonbury ticket holders
4. Healthcare workers
5. Old people + high risk groups
6. Key workers
7. Everyone else
8. Pablo Honey

Sound about right?

FTFY