When will this shit end?

[Leyrulion]

24 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

 Content aside. She's looks very good at her job. Saying exactly what the president would probably say, even if it's stupid, and backing up all his positions. 

 

[zahidf]

Edited August 19, 2020 by zahidf

[FestivalJamie]

Croatia to be added to quarantine tomorrow.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/19/exclusive-croatia-go-uks-quarantine-red-list-infection-rate/amp/

31 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

According to the graph that shows up when you Google "Spain covid deaths" their numbers went from 24 to 127 within a day. Is that some old figures being thrown on like we've done a couple of times or has it all gone to shit very quickly there?

World-o-meter is showing +127 deaths. Looks like the escalation in cases is causing an increase in deaths, which is not good in the slightest.

[mattiloy]

5 hours ago, Sdsm123 said:

What land do you reside on, you clearly have no idea just how popular the conservatives are there is a whole world outside this forum labour won’t be back in power for a long time especially with Starmer in charge

Having seen your posts over time, assuming then that you vote tory, can I ask why? What policies are important to you?

[FestivalJamie]

Just to put this into perspective, we have 895 patients currently in hospital with the virus, and 73 in intensive care. France, with a smaller population than us, now has 374 in intensive care and 4806 in hospital with the virus.

Really just shows how many more admissions into hospital there are when cases start to escalate again- despite macron saying that cases are mainly in young people, their hospitalisation figures are comparatively much much higher compared to ours. I personally think our testing is much better than theirs and their cases are probably even higher than what they are actually reporting. 

Just emphasises why vigilance is so needed. It's great our cases are on the way back down again/levelling off. If we can keep them at this steady levels then that's great, because our hospitalisation figures are so much lower than some of the other European countries now. 127 deaths today in Spain is particularly tragic though.

Edited August 20, 2020 by FestivalJamie

[steviewevie]

Heathrow's test centre could replace quarantine...

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/aug/19/heathrow-rapid-covid-test-centre-could-replace-quarantine

[steviewevie]

woah..I'm being moderated man...

[eFestivals]

18 hours ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

Ironically, in Scotland, a vote for Labour is effectively a wasted vote if you're looking to oust the Tories. 

not necessarily true.

I reckon there's an opposite effect within England, that the more likely Scotland is to return SNP MPs the more likely England is to vote tory.

I think it's likely that if Scotland was still returning mostly Labour MPs that one of the past 3 elections would have been won by Labour - because (policies aside, and outside of Scotland) why would people want a UK govt comprised of a party that doesn't want the best for the UK?

As well as extras even-more-extras for Scotland (the SNPs overriding policy within the UK) being at the expense of their own area - when people everywhere tend to vote on the basis of "I want more for me". If most people didn't vote on the basis of "I want more for me" the SNP wouldn't be winning in Scotland.  

[eFestivals]

17 hours ago, DeanoL said:

Do you think Corbyn's policies got more socialist between 2017 and 2019? 

do you think they didn't...?  

The 2017 manifesto was essentially Miliband's 2015 manifesto with some minor tweaks. The 2019 manifesto very definitely wasn't.  

Edited August 20, 2020 by eFestivals

[Homer]

12 hours ago, steviewevie said:

lot of dickheads out there.

Interesting stuff I read up on years ago. 'Right wing brains' are far more attuned to threat and motivated by fear. It's the way we are built, which is why neither 'side' seems to make sense to the other (I guess):

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes

[eFestivals]

23 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

woah..I'm being moderated man...

Now approved, but it got caught in a spam trap for some reason - although it shouldn't have.

I guess there was something in the url which matched something from the spammers.

 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Homer said:

Interesting stuff I read up on years ago. 'Right wing brains' are far more attuned to threat and motivated by fear. It's the way we are built, which is why neither 'side' seems to make sense to the other (I guess):

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes

Interesting.

Aren't people who have been to university on the whole more liberal/lefty than those that haven't?

[Homer]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Interesting.

Aren't people who have been to university on the whole more liberal/lefty than those that haven't?

It's handy to bear in mind if you spend some of your time (as I do) just not being able to 'get' the right.

That would v much be born out by the referendum voting breakdown (uni educated far more likely to vote remain).

[zahidf]

Clinton didn't consistently have a clear polling lead in 2016, certainly not compared to Biden.

Looking at the 538 national polling average in 2016 from 8 June (when the 538 average starts and she effectively won the nomination) until August 18 (the most recent date available for Biden Trump):
Clinton's lead varied between 0.2% and 8.1%

During the same period this year:
Biden's lead has varied between 7.2% and 9.6% (currently 8.4% bang in the middle of the range, and higher than Clinton's highest average lead in 2016)

The highest Clinton polled in that period was 45.6%. Biden's lowest polling in that period was 49.5% and has mostly been above 50% - something Clinton didn't manage in all of 2016.

Biden is, so far, polling much better than Clinton.

[steviewevie]

32 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Clinton didn't consistently have a clear polling lead in 2016, certainly not compared to Biden.

Looking at the 538 national polling average in 2016 from 8 June (when the 538 average starts and she effectively won the nomination) until August 18 (the most recent date available for Biden Trump):
Clinton's lead varied between 0.2% and 8.1%

During the same period this year:
Biden's lead has varied between 7.2% and 9.6% (currently 8.4% bang in the middle of the range, and higher than Clinton's highest average lead in 2016)

The highest Clinton polled in that period was 45.6%. Biden's lowest polling in that period was 49.5% and has mostly been above 50% - something Clinton didn't manage in all of 2016.

Biden is, so far, polling much better than Clinton.

yeah, and he is polling well in those swing states that backed Trump last time....

[Crazyfool01]

 

[efcfanwirral]

22 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

 

Well from his perspective he tried point 1 and people complained, as he only meant rich students, and I imagine Eton etc will be allowed to put whatever safety measures they want in place - the types normal schools aren't able to do. So I think he is meeting the targets set to him, it's just very different to the rest of us! 

Edited August 20, 2020 by efcfanwirral

[efcfanwirral]

It was all part of the plan. Unfortunately a lot more than money is involved in this. If it was just money but the public got their services I wouldn't have any problem with it - perks of government in a capitalist society and I genuinely don't get the outrage about that part. But they keep "messing up" (in public's eyes), but probably helping to further the agenda, whatever it is 

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by efcfanwirral

[Leyrulion]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Heathrow's test centre could replace quarantine...

 

I just got back from Jersey and they do testing on arrival. The whole process of testing took about 20 minutes, with results back about 30 hours later.

If you're from an "amber" country (france, spain etc) you have to quarantine until you get the results of a 2nd test 5 days later. 

I really don't see why we can't do this. When I got back to the uk there was absolutely no checks at all. Not even information about symptoms to look for or the rules in the UK.

Jersey do it for free, with the option of 14 day quarantine instead. I think £150 is far too much, people won't pay it.

Testing should be free on arrival at all ports and airport

Edited August 20, 2020 by Leyrulion
Deleting link

[squirrelarmy]

Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to the government. 
 

Surely it’s time for a revolution. 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, squirrelarmy said:

Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to the government. 
 

Surely it’s time for a revolution. 

you going to leed it ?

[Lizzim]

1 hour ago, Leyrulion said:

I just got back from Jersey and they do testing on arrival. The whole process of testing took about 20 minutes, with results back about 30 hours later.

If you're from an "amber" country (france, spain etc) you have to quarantine until you get the results of a 2nd test 5 days later. 

I really don't see why we can't do this. When I got back to the uk there was absolutely no checks at all. Not even information about symptoms to look for or the rules in the UK.

Jersey do it for free, with the option of 14 day quarantine instead. I think £150 is far too much, people won't pay it.

Testing should be free on arrival at all ports and airport

We just got back from Jersey too, it was a very well organised process.  Bear in mind though that there are very few arrivals in Jersey these days and the entire population of Jersey is only 100,000 so it is manageable.   I can't see how that operation could be scaled across the UK

As Jersey is in the uk common travel area , there was no requirement to complete entry checks etc like you would if coming from elsewhere.

[Crazyfool01]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-scotland-sees-highest-daily-rise-in-covid-infections-in-nearly-three-months-12053108

 

:( 

[steviewevie]

Scotland govt doesn't want people going back to the office, UK govt does.

[Fuzzy Afro]

Hoping for less than 1129 cases and 18 deaths today