zahidf Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Just now, steviewevie said: Labour have such a massive task to get back into power, the only possible chance they have is by appealing to a broad church. Not sure if Starmer will manage this...but Long Bailey really should have just deleted the tweet and come out with a statement apologising for any offence caused, she hadn't read the whole article etc etc. Why the feck do those on the left have to keep implying Israel is some how at fault for all the world's ills. apparently she refused to apologise and was then not taking calls for 4 hours before starmer sacked her. https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/keir-starmer-rebecca-long-bailey_uk_5ef50f91c5b6acab283efcb2/?iuw=&__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Starmer had to bench RLB as he just can't risk being tarred with the same anti-Semitism stuff that sunk Corbyn. Honsestly doesn't even matter if it's true or not, just that idea floating around would be a disaster. What he needs to do now is replace with someone else from the left of the party to make it clear that it was done because of what she said, and not because he wanted to clear out the last of the Corbynites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 From Guardian live feed... Austria: 40% of residents in coronavirus 'ground zero' ski resort have antibodies Philip Oltermann Some 40% of residents in the Tyrolean skiing resort that has been described as a possible “ground zero” for the pandemic in Europe have developed Covid-19 antibodies, scientists have found. Scientists from the university of Innsbruck tested 80% of the population of Ischgl, a popular Austrian skiing destination from which tourists have been confirmed to have carried the virus to Germany, Britain, Denmark, Iceland, Belgium, the Netherlands, and even Brazil and Israel. Of 1,259 adults and 214 children tested, 42.5% had developed antibodies for the virus. The director of the university’s Institute for Virology, Dorothee von Laer, on Thursday described the result as the higher level of infection confirmed across the globe so far. Of those infected, only 15% had experienced any sorts of symptoms, the study found, meaning that as many as 85% experienced the infection without noticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Intu about to go into administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Very infectious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 hours ago, DeanoL said: Starmer had to bench RLB as he just can't risk being tarred with the same anti-Semitism stuff that sunk Corbyn. Honsestly doesn't even matter if it's true or not, just that idea floating around would be a disaster. What he needs to do now is replace with someone else from the left of the party to make it clear that it was done because of what she said, and not because he wanted to clear out the last of the Corbynites. I said this yesterday but he’s now come across as much more decisive as Johnson who refuses to sack those close to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2020/06/26/long-bailey-sacking-shows-starmer-is-serious-about-winning Edited June 26, 2020 by steviewevie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalviaPlath Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Jenrick potentially did something quite serious that deserves having the whip removed. It should probably be more than just a sacking. The RLB thing is just a factional witch hunt. I was bothered about it but it's how the political game is played I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Good to see some of that good old British common sense on display at the beaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, SalviaPlath said: Jenrick potentially did something quite serious that deserves having the whip removed. It should probably be more than just a sacking. The RLB thing is just a factional witch hunt. I was bothered about it but it's how the political game is played I suppose. witch hunt? oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalviaPlath Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, steviewevie said: witch hunt? oh dear. Well she did nothing wrong so yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, SalviaPlath said: Well she did nothing wrong so yes. apart from tweet and endorse some article with a conspiracy theory in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 and then not bother to retract or apologise Long Bailey is not a witch, she's fuckin moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalviaPlath Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Just now, steviewevie said: and then not bother to retract or apologise Long Bailey is not a witch, she's fuckin moron. Nice. Really nice attitude to women you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, SalviaPlath said: Nice. Really nice attitude to women you have. Where does that come into it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, SalviaPlath said: Nice. Really nice attitude to women you have. oh dear. again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Kicking off everywhere, as well as on here. Fight for your right to Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copperface Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, SalviaPlath said: Nice. Really nice attitude to women you have. You've obviously noticed something in that statement that I completely missed........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) Not interested in getting into a Sco vs Eng, Sturgeon vs Johson, independence vs devolution debate with this. Just a potentially positive piece of news from north of the border. Clearly still not perfect and she may be talking up the positives, but the numbers trend is definitely in the right direction. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53195166 Edited June 26, 2020 by Quark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, SalviaPlath said: Nice. Really nice attitude to women you have. Where did women come into it? Maybe lay off the salvia for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark E. Spliff Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, steviewevie said: apart from tweet and endorse some article with a conspiracy theory in there. The crime for which she's been sacked is anti-semitism. She's completely innocent of that, as is Maxine Peake - regardless of the fact that they got it wrong about Israeli Security forces and neck-kneeling etc. Corbyn was absolute rubbish and threw the general election away with his complete failure to handle Brexit. But the anti-semitism stuff was a politically-motivated attack which they should have fought rather than caved-in to. Because they didn't, we're now in a situation whereby Labour Leaders feel compelled to equate any criticism of Zionism and the right-wing drift of Israeli politics with anti-semitism. It isn't. When I was marching against the second Gulf War in 2003, I ended up being swallowed up by a large group of Jewish anti-zionist/anti-war protesters, who were scathing about the right-wing politics and zealotry which was taking hold of their country. Many of the architects of the British Labour Party were radical left-wing Jews and it's unbelievable that the current leadership is now frightened to call out the pro-Trump, right-wing zealots who currently wield a frightening amount of influence in Israel for fear of being accused of anti-semitism. I'm happy to support Starmer because it's necessary for victory - the majority of the electorate are basically morons who put empty slogans and haircuts before any true understanding of economics or politics. However, is a victory built on capitulation to the extreme right worth winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) They brought up a conspiracy theory about Israel police and connected it to the killing of George Floyd and the whole black lives matter thing. This is completely different to critisizing Israel for it's foreign policy and how it treats palestinans. The Socialist Campaign Group yesterday published a letter doing just this, signed by all the corbynite bigwigs...and there was no accusations of antisemitism, nothing from Starmer or any Jewish groups. Because there is nothing wrong with that. But just making up shit cause it fits your agenda is maybe ok for a lefty actress, but the shadow education sec should know better. I'm surprised they haven't blamed Israel for coronavirus yet. Edited June 26, 2020 by steviewevie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Copperface Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 33 minutes ago, steviewevie said: I'm surprised they haven't blamed Israel for coronavirus yet. Many have.... https://www.timesofisrael.com/covid-19-fueling-worldwide-wave-of-anti-semitism-researchers-find/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) Rightly or wrongly this is really all that matters If we ever want to get rid of the Tories perception needs to change and Keir understands that. In the same YouGov poll 39% think Jenrick should go. Edited June 26, 2020 by Ozanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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