Homer Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, kalifire said: We’re all going to get ill from Covid at some point. It’s just some will choose Covid over a vaccine by attending these super spreader events. If the most vulnerable have been fully vaccinated and the younger people more prone to catch it are much less likely to be hospitalised, it might just be manageable. Someone recently pointed out that the best point to get Covid is when the vaccine in our body is at its most effective. For millions, that time is now. I was about to say something similar. I don't follow this all as closely as some, but my understanding (as a mask-wearing, generally lockdown rules abiding type of person) was that the plan has been for a while: Vaccinate the vulnerable and the elderly then open up. Which I thought is what we are doing now. Or, if not, what has gone wrong? Have we not vaccinated enough people yet or are we worried about new variants? I'm not 100% clear what the new variable in play is. Surely those getting it now are largely unlikely to get too ill, for whatever reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just maybe need to be a bit less judgemental. Some people want to party, can't blame them, it's been a shitty 18 months and now they're allowed, and some people are still nervous and some are still vulnerable to this disease, and they need to be shown some respect too. Sermon of the day. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Just maybe need to be a bit less judgemental. Some people want to party, can't blame them, it's been a shitty 18 months and now they're allowed, and some people are still nervous and some are still vulnerable to this disease, and they need to be shown some respect too. Sermon of the day. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Just maybe need to be a bit less judgemental. Some people want to party, can't blame them, it's been a shitty 18 months and now they're allowed, and some people are still nervous and some are still vulnerable to this disease, and they need to be shown some respect too. Sermon of the day. Too right - happy freedom day everyone! Though I finally got pinged on Sat post-Wembley, so I'm not actually allowed outside anyway. I'm just dancing around the front room with 2L of Natch listening to Magic FM instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt42 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Just maybe need to be a bit less judgemental. Some people want to party, can't blame them, it's been a shitty 18 months and now they're allowed, and some people are still nervous and some are still vulnerable to this disease, and they need to be shown some respect too. Sermon of the day. I don’t think it’s a respect issue I think it’s a hysteria issue. With flames fanned by people who profit off the hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Homer said: I was about to say something similar. I don't follow this all as closely as some, but my understanding (as a mask-wearing, generally lockdown rules abiding type of person) was that the plan has been for a while: Vaccinate the vulnerable and the elderly then open up. Which I thought is what we are doing now. Or, if not, what has gone wrong? Have we not vaccinated enough people yet or are we worried about new variants? I'm not 100% clear what the new variable in play is. Surely those getting it now are largely unlikely to get too ill, for whatever reason? The worry is still hospitals getting overwhelmed, as they are already busy dealing with backlog of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Now that we finally have our freedom back, we just have to fight hard against anyone trying to reimpose these ridiculous rules ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellotr0n Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, steviewevie said: The worry is still hospitals getting overwhelmed, as they are already busy dealing with backlog of stuff. True, but they’re only going to be busier in winter dealing with what’s expected to be a larger than usual number of flu cases, so it really is now or never, isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipsteak Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Just maybe need to be a bit less judgemental. Some people want to party, can't blame them, it's been a shitty 18 months and now they're allowed, and some people are still nervous and some are still vulnerable to this disease, and they need to be shown some respect too. Sermon of the day. 13 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: 100% Now I really have seen everything. Strange times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: The worry is still hospitals getting overwhelmed, as they are already busy dealing with backlog of stuff. But another lockdown, increasing the backlog, delays the inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjseabass Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Matt42 said: But another lockdown, increasing the backlog, delays the inevitable. Dealing with Covid instead of the backlog increases the backlog, not lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 The question should be - is my over caution / hysteria ruining someone else’s life? / hindering someone else’s daily activity? Most of the time the answer is yes. If you are so terrified you never want to go to a public place again that’s your own battle you need to fight. Not for everyone else. It’s like a tortoise darting back into its shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mellotr0n said: True, but they’re only going to be busier in winter dealing with what’s expected to be a larger than usual number of flu cases, so it really is now or never, isn’t it? A few of the zero covid lot ( that HSJ editor, Pagel, that commie e.t.c) have let their real feeling out and want us under these ridiculous rules for the next year or 2! I dont believe them for a second when they say 'just a few weeks' Edited July 19, 2021 by zahidf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Corgan's Ego Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Matt42 said: Posts like this are kinda the reason why people grow to despise the NHS and vote Tory. You are very articulate for a 12 year old, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, sjseabass said: Dealing with Covid instead of the backlog increases the backlog, not lockdown. We’ve done all we can do before we start getting into real tyranny over people’s lives. Most of the public have done their bit, stayed home, got the jabs, and even avoided holding the hands of their dying relatives for the greater good. What more do you want them to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, steviewevie said: The worry is still hospitals getting overwhelmed, as they are already busy dealing with backlog of stuff. Yeah, I get that nut surely that should have all been factored into the plan that we have been (allegedly) following all along? I don't understand what variable has changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Today is really simple. Upgrade your useless cloth mask for a n95 mask or better and be happy with your choice and others Take some responsibility for your own health Edited July 19, 2021 by Barry Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Homer said: Yeah, I get that nut surely that should have all been factored into the plan that we have been (allegedly) following all along? I don't understand what variable has changed? There is no rhyme or reason, it’s just that people have been so terrified they think that the lifestyle the world led for generations is now impossible to live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 This thread probably does need to die. Thought the Freedom Day brigade would be all jumping for joy and full of excitement today but it's still going to be pages and pages of hyperbole and generalisation isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, Zoo Music Girl said: This thread probably does need to die. Thought the Freedom Day brigade would be all jumping for joy and full of excitement today but it's still going to be pages and pages of hyperbole and generalisation isn't it? People would be jumping for joy if there wasn’t hyperbole and generalisation on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBarry465 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: Today is really simple. Upgrade your useless cloth mask for a not mask or better and be happy with your choice and others Take some responsibility for your own health Masks were always about the consideration of people around you - not yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, Matt42 said: People would be jumping for joy if there wasn’t hyperbole and generalisation on the other side. Why don't you just ignore it and go clubbing? You can now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st dan Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Must have seen 15 parents dropping their kids off at my sons nursery this morning - every single one of them continuing to wear a mask even though it is now only encouraged and not mandatory. You’d feel the odd one out for not wearing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapple12345 Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 A couple of friends have been widely sharing posts encouraging people to take a test before going clubbing, see we're not all that reckless 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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