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54 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

Just been pinged for 5 days in the birdhouse from a contact I had last Saturday evening... 

Its a good job that in the mean time I've not been on the train twice. Shop multiple times. A face to face meeting. The pub. The boys swimming lesson and to school several times. 

2 out of the 4 of us who had a couple of pints last Saturday pinged other two not... Must have been the perspex screen between us and another table in the pub that the two of us got the ping from. 

Everyone will be self isolating soon! 

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22 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

I know it's only one day etc etc but at least seeing Scotland's reported cases down a few hundred today from yesterday. 3823 today, 4234 yesterday. Hopefully the peak is soon/ hit but who knows to be honest, the positivity rate is still v high.

How long is it since they got knocked out of the Euros...?

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14 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Everyone will be self isolating soon! 

I think the idea post July 19th is that if you've come into contact with a positive test, you will take daily tests rather than self isolate. Otherwise - as you say -  we could end up with a sizeable percentage of the country isolating, with cases rising.

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1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

I don’t think it’s even comparable, as you say we have 130k deaths in the U.K. which is one of the highest in the world. Australia clearly has done better on the whole with their handling of the pandemic. 

For now. 

That could change if they dont get vaccinating. 

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1 hour ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

This is a complete disgrace.

 

A four-step plan and it’s acknowledged they won’t even be entering step 2 until next year.

 

Meanwhile the UK is on track to bin all restrictions on social contact in just over two weeks.

 

Anyone still think Australia has done better than us? 

 

Yes, ignoring the deaths for a second, at the end of their 4-stage process the average Australian will still have spent less time in lockdown that we have, by a factor of about 10. And the country will have suffered less economic damage.

It does suck for those unable to see relatives in Australian (or Australians not able to see relatives out of there) but honestly that's going to impact on fewer families than those have seen relatives die from COVID here.

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9 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

Yes, ignoring the deaths for a second, at the end of their 4-stage process the average Australian will still have spent less time in lockdown that we have, by a factor of about 10. And the country will have suffered less economic damage.

It does suck for those unable to see relatives in Australian (or Australians not able to see relatives out of there) but honestly that's going to impact on fewer families than those have seen relatives die from COVID here.

I would much much much rather the UK did what Australia did and are doing than the mess we had.

The UK has the longest 'lockdown' of pretty much anywhere in the world and the worst hit economy anywhere in the G20 alongside the worst deaths.

That is what our government has given us.

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28 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

Yes, ignoring the deaths for a second, at the end of their 4-stage process the average Australian will still have spent less time in lockdown that we have, by a factor of about 10. And the country will have suffered less economic damage.

It does suck for those unable to see relatives in Australian (or Australians not able to see relatives out of there) but honestly that's going to impact on fewer families than those have seen relatives die from COVID here.

 

18 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

I would much much much rather the UK did what Australia did and are doing than the mess we had.

The UK has the longest 'lockdown' of pretty much anywhere in the world and the worst hit economy anywhere in the G20 alongside the worst deaths.

That is what our government has given us.

Agree with you both that we’ve been pretty hard hit so far in terms of both lockdowns and deaths.

 

I suspect you guys may agree with me in a year or two though when the pandemic has long since ended in the UK and Australia is still stuck in stage 2/3 of their process. 

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1 hour ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

 

Agree with you both that we’ve been pretty hard hit so far in terms of both lockdowns and deaths.

 

I suspect you guys may agree with me in a year or two though when the pandemic has long since ended in the UK and Australia is still stuck in stage 2/3 of their process. 

I think by then we'll have produced enough vaccines to vaccinated the whole world twice over and Australia won't be at the bottom of the list by any means.

But even if you're right, and Australia carry on like this for another 2 years, they'll *still* have had less lockdown than we have by a huge amount.

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8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

apparently palestine has rejected as too close to expiry date. Seems a bit silly.

Palistine has not got the infrastructure to actually administer the doses and would have to give back the same number from an order they have coming later in the year.

Now is Israel offered to administer the jabs.........................

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4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Palistine has not got the infrastructure to actually administer the doses and would have to give back the same number from an order they have coming later in the year.

Now is Israel offered to administer the jabs.........................

well in that article it says they're waiting to receive directly from pfizer instead.

Maybe there would be more hesitancy if got the old stuff israel didn't want?

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8 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Palistine has not got the infrastructure to actually administer the doses and would have to give back the same number from an order they have coming later in the year.

Now is Israel offered to administer the jabs.........................

 

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

well in that article it says they're waiting to receive directly from pfizer instead.

Maybe there would be more hesitancy if got the old stuff israel didn't want?

To be fair, I can totally get the distrust in Palestine receiving them from Israel directly at any time, never mind when they're close to the expiry date when anything that goes wrong could be blamed on that

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9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

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Hopefully the discharges continue to keep up pace - the number in hospital was 927 on June 1st so it hasn't even doubled in the last month, 

Allowing for a week lag, the 24th May cases was 2,439 and 24th June was 16,703 so many more times the cases but those actually in hospital remain low, whatever is happening with admissions. It's not looking too bad as long as that ratio of admissions vs discharges continues

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