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9 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Exactly what I have been saying all day.  Going beyond 4 weeks and its game over.  We need to risk it asap.  Restrictions until Spring will have dire economic consequences for us all far beyond anything so far.

Yep been saying it for months. It’s now or never (next year) 

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3 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Reality depends on where you look. You won't normally find me in Manchester or any busy place, because I'm still generally avoiding them to do what I can to get this bloody thing to actually finish - rather than sticking my fingers in my ears and declaring it's over because I, like, really, really want it to be. It's not quite there yet.

We all want it to be over. I went out to Bristol last night for a works social. I didn't really want to go but I was expected to. Lots of anticipation on my part but OMG it was great to see people in real life rather than on a screen. Hugs at the end too. 

No regrets, we are human and need social contact. 

There is a lot of grey area that we live in between 'declaring it's over' and being 'not quite there yet' much of it filled with frustration and worry. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, BobWillis2 said:

Yep been saying it for months. It’s now or never (next year) 

Well I think we do have wiggle room for 2 to 4 weeks...  If your not confident after a 4 week delay then your choosing to save people from covid but letting millions starve to death when they lose their jobs, housing market goes to ruin, service industry collapses and then it costs you £400 for a loaf of bread.

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6 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

To be clear, I wasn't trying to criticize people like @danmarks' daughter with that post. This fucking virus is shit. 

Never thought that at all but thankyou. And its ok to not agree on everything. Youve always been a reasoned voice. I wouldn't think any different just cos im dealing with shit but thankyou again 

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4 minutes ago, danmarks said:

Yep that a discussion to me. Different opinions but no biggy if that makes sense. Conversation not shouty tome. But seriously thankyou. 

Yeah that makes sense mate. I hope everything works out for you guys.

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20 minutes ago, danmarks said:

Thankyou all. Wasn't going to post but bit of a mess obviously. 

And just want people to know there's a human cost to every decision x

Something that quite a few on here would do well to remember. 
 

Not everything is as binary as restrictions save lives and must stay in place, and not everyone that wants restrictions gone ASAP just want to stop wearing masks and stand at the bar in a pub. 

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12 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I am actually for the first time getting really really worried.  A delay to spring surely can't be the actual option they will go for ?  There will be nothing left to reopen.  The entire economy will collapse unless we are going to print money like nothing ever seen before and then we can enjoy hyper inflation like no one has ever seen before.

I've expected this the whole way - though I didn't genuinely think it'd actually happen until now also 

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4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I think life will start to feel much more normal here in a month or so, but this shit isn't over for a while yet.

I think late summer will be the best position we've been in during the whole pandemic, I'll be interested to see how it ends up within the autumn/winter though but I do think we'll see significant easings from thr 19th July 

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Just now, efcfanwirral said:

I've expected this the whole way - though I didn't think it'd actually happen until now also 

I have just read the whole article.  Not sure if you can as its pay wall ? 

I actually just calmed myself down a bit by doing so.  Its pretty clear reading it the modellers and real experts are stating this as lets do 4 weeks (as there is some justification behind it) and then crack on which is a good thing and warning the government to ignore the crazy indy sage types who will never be happy.

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1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I don't mean to sound difficult but why is a Spring delay being thought of? I might have missed a few posts tbf.

If you delay too long your exit wave will be in the Autumn during flu season.  Which the NHS could not cope with so it would have to be spring to unlock and have the third wave.

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Just now, Ozanne said:

I don't mean to sound difficult but why is a Spring delay being thought of? I might have missed a few posts tbf.

Because we can't relax things now because the data isn't conclusive.

Because we can't relax things in a month or two because that's when the Holidays start and all the socialising that goes along with that.

Because we can't relax things in September because the Schools and Universities go back.

Because we can't relax things in October-February because it's getting into winter.

Because some people seem to believe in a mythical "right" time to do this and think if they wait long enough it'll eventually arrive without causing any manner of other problems. Then when Spring comes around there'll be another bullshit reason.

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Boris needs to get his head out of his arse and start listening. 
 

Jab jab jab for 5 weeks and end all restrictions come what may.
We cannot go on like this or society will crumble if this carries on until spring.
The arts, hospitality and travel industries will be decimated. Non elite sports clubs will be perilously close to going out of business. All resulting in mass unemployment and an even bigger mental health crisis than we’re already faced with. 
 

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Just now, incident said:

Because we can't relax things now because the data isn't conclusive.

Because we can't relax things in a month or two because that's when the Holidays start and all the socialising that goes along with that.

Because we can't relax things in September because the Schools and Universities go back.

Because we can't relax things in October-February because it's getting into winter.

Because some people seem to believe in a mythical "right" time to do this and think if they wait long enough it'll eventually arrive without causing any manner of other problems. Then when Spring comes around there'll be another bullshit reason.

I think by the end of July (or even the summer at the very latest) we'll be in a much better position and we'll definitely be unlocking by then. 2nd doses have such a good impact that we shouldn't see a burden on the NHS. I really think all we need to do is 2nd dose as many as possible and we'll be fine.

Also Tory MPs probably won't let Johnson extend till Spring.

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29 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Reality depends on where you look. You won't normally find me in Manchester or any busy place, because I'm still generally avoiding them to do what I can to get this bloody thing to actually finish - rather than sticking my fingers in my ears and declaring it's over because I, like, really, really want it to be. It's not quite there yet.

I’m young and losing my 20s to this.

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23 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Reality is reality...  What I am seeing is the cricket and football stands with people hugging and kissing.  Trains with people without masks.  And the odd nutter walking in a park in the open air with a mask (my guess is this is the person who does the polls)

This cricket is surely crucial? If 18,000 pissed up lads bellowing En-ger-land for 8 hours a day for 4 days on the trot, doesn't spread covid, then surely we're safe to open up other (outdoor, at least) events?

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Just now, Punksnotdead said:

This cricket is surely crucial? If 18,000 pissed up lads bellowing En-ger-land for 8 hours a day for 4 days on the trot, doesn't spread covid, then surely we're safe to open up other (outdoor, at least) events?

You would of thought so - yes.

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Just now, Ozanne said:

I think by the end of July (or even the summer at the very latest) we'll be in a much better position and we'll definitely be unlocking by then. 2nd doses have such a good impact that we shouldn't see a burden on the NHS. I really think all we need to do is 2nd dose as many as possible and we'll be fine.

Also Tory MPs probably won't let Johnson extend till Spring.

But what about the new Romanian/Argentinian/Middlesborough variants? What about the 2-5% who'll refuse vaccination long term? There's always going to be another reason to stay locked down.

It's true that the further into vaccinations we get, the better the position we'll be in - but that ignores the fact that we're in a fantastic position to unlock already. Nationally we're still tracking well below the models for "best case scenario", and all of the places that have been hit with rising infections due to Delta - some of them for over six weeks now - so far have only had a manageable hit on the NHS and measurably far lower than in previous waves. If we can't justify it now, then a few weeks won't provide that extra justification - it'll either be a case of "well we still can't", or "well, we really could have done it in June".

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Just now, Matt42 said:

An extension into spring and I’d seriously get worried for the future of the UK Festival industry. Glastonbury too.

Glastonbury would be fucked being one of the earlier festivals.  How would they plan with any certainty if your looking at the spring to make a call.  They must of already lost a ton of money.

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3 minutes ago, incident said:

But what about the new Romanian/Argentinian/Middlesborough variants? What about the 2-5% who'll refuse vaccination long term? There's always going to be another reason to stay locked down.

It's true that the further into vaccinations we get, the better the position we'll be in - but that ignores the fact that we're in a fantastic position to unlock already. Nationally we're still tracking well below the models for "best case scenario", and all of the places that have been hit with rising infections due to Delta - some of them for over six weeks now - so far have only had a manageable hit on the NHS and measurably far lower than in previous waves. If we can't justify it now, then a few weeks won't provide that extra justification - it'll either be a case of "well we still can't", or "well, we really could have done it in June".

True there will be potential for further variants but as I say nearly every adult will be fully vaccinated soon so the argument will fall away. I could well be wrong but I genuinely think restrictions will stop (with possible exception of masks/WFH guidance) soon!

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Feel gutted for all of the business owners who were struggling to stay afloat that have made orders, bought stock and employed staff ready for the 21st. I imagine a few businesses will go under as a result of this, especially with the uncertainty about whether it’ll just be one delay or not. 

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