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2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

But different scientists have different views. Do we only need to listen to the ones the politicians choose?

No, and the scientists talking to the politicians will have different views...but usually a consensus forms, and then someone has to make a decision looking at all the factors...economic, behavioural and social stuff etc etc.

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4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Any delay will be curtains for my kid's end of school prom thing which was supposed to be on later this month. Sad really, but what can you do. They'll probably all go to the park have more fun anyway...

My eldest daughter lost her prom last year, leaving day and also a school trip to Iceland. She did get her GCSE's for "free" so every cloud eh ?

I have missed things but generally will get them back if not the time. Feel sorry for the young who have missed out. Cant imagine having 18 months stripped out of my prime clubbing years in the 90's. Not that I remember much of them ha ha but I know I was there.

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4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

But different scientists have different views. Do we only need to listen to the ones the politicians choose?

Globally, nearly every country has taken the same approach to the pandemic. 

There's always going to be some scientists who have different views and they should be reviewed. But if the broad consensus remains the same - listening to a few opposing views isn't really that helpful. One such example is Sunetra Gupta who has been a critic of the lockdowns. But if you then dive a little deeper into her back story, she has some pretty 'odd' views on things....

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Hopefully the latest data downing st sees this weekend shows we may actually be ok this summer and Johnson will say we can go ahead with full reopening on 21st and then we can laugh at fake Sage's despair and drink from their tears and crack one off all over their nerdy faces.

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2 minutes ago, faymondo said:

My eldest daughter lost her prom last year, leaving day and also a school trip to Iceland. She did get her GCSE's for "free" so every cloud eh ?

I have missed things but generally will get them back if not the time. Feel sorry for the young who have missed out. Cant imagine having 18 months stripped out of my prime clubbing years in the 90's. Not that I remember much of them ha ha but I know I was there.

Yeah, my kid was about to go on a skiing trip with school end of March last year, the privileged little shit, but that got canned. But I remember the day they closed her school because of covid and it was the happiest I had seen her for a long time.

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Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

Agreed. I don’t think anything makes me less horny than fake SAGE. 

Nah just cringeworthy calling people nerds and taking some sort of anti intellect stance on things.

Basic as fuck.

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2 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

Why are we calling it freedom day? It’s not like we’re locked up in our houses now and unable to do anything. Stupid tabloids. 

Boris likes to think of himself as a great war time Churchillian like politician. he is doing anything he can to be that way  

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4 minutes ago, shuttlep said:

Boris likes to think of himself as a great war time Churchillian like politician. he is doing anything he can to be that way  

If he really wants to make a big deal of it then he should let everyone have the day off work. 

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14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

No, and the scientists talking to the politicians will have different views...but usually a consensus forms, and then someone has to make a decision looking at all the factors...economic, behavioural and social stuff etc etc.

Did the government in the UK ever publish the criteria that would need to be met to facilitate an end to restrictions? 'We'd need to see X number of cases' - that kind of thing. That would surely end most speculation and incentivise people to work together to achieve the results needed. They did that here last year and it worked well.

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8 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Did the government in the UK ever publish the criteria that would need to be met to facilitate an end to restrictions? 'We'd need to see X number of cases' - that kind of thing. That would surely end most speculation and incentivise people to work together to achieve the results needed. They did that here last year and it worked well.

Of course not - Boris is going to make the decision on his own on Sunday night. Then cabinet might get a large report 10 minutes before they're due to discuss it. Just like a true democracy

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12 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

Nah just cringeworthy calling people nerds and taking some sort of anti intellect stance on things.

Basic as fuck.

To be fair I'm pretty sure @steviewevie was being ironic. He gets as annoyed about that stance as anyone here.

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2 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

To be fair I'm pretty sure @steviewevie was being ironic. He gets as annoyed about that stance as anyone here.

If anything, it was a bit too good. It sounded pretty much exactly the same as some people's real posts

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15 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

Nah just cringeworthy calling people nerds and taking some sort of anti intellect stance on things.

Basic as fuck.

 Sanctimonious condescension is basic as fuck. 

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FWIW my Boss was in a meeting yesterday that included a couple of DfT people and they kept referring to the start of the (English) school holidays, which I think is 4 weeks away.

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1 minute ago, JoeyT said:

 

So because one in a million has a chance of a clot they chose to leave many more vulnerable to the virus for longer. Seems logical. 🤪

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Just now, MEGABOWL said:

FWIW my Boss was in a meeting yesterday that included a couple of DfT people and they kept referring to the start of the (English) school holidays, which I think is 4 weeks away.

5 weeks unfortunately...

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6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Was clearly a mistake at the time and is one now. They need to reverse this ASAP.

The thing is will people want to take it now? I feel like it's been somewhat tarnished by being told it's not safe (even though it really is for the vast majority). Some might still take it, but I reckon most will just wait if they are not at high risk of covid.

I say this as someone under 40 who has had AZ (before the blood clot thing, but I still would have afterwards).

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4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Down to 41% more transmissible now from 60%...

 

It's insane this, first 0%, then 40%, then 60% and now 41%, I appreciate estimating how much more transmissible each variant will be can never be an exact science but by publishing different figures every other day each source is just throwing themselves to the wolves

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10 minutes ago, Havors said:

So because one in a million has a chance of a clot they chose to leave many more vulnerable to the virus for longer. Seems logical. 🤪

At least give people the choice but without shaming them if they decide not to take this this

Problem is that second bit isn't what's going to happen 

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