Matt42 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: oh, I don't know...I'm not sure it's about anti vaxers or mollycoddling...I think it's the fact we have an infectious variant and not everyone fully vaccinated yet. But the US has opened vaccinations to 18+ so do we replicate their approach when we reach that stage? Or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Just now, steviewevie said: hopefully we'll all have implants soon and we can order stuff by blinking or something. Check out Neuralink that Elon Musk is developing. I’m genuinely interested in seeing what it can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Just now, Matt42 said: But the US has opened vaccinations to 18+ so do we replicate their approach when we reach that stage? Or not? Yep of course … get them in the arms of those who want them … as long as it doesn’t slow the rollout or reduce uptake in those that remain and then take the final steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matt42 said: But the US has opened vaccinations to 18+ so do we replicate their approach when we reach that stage? Or not? no, we do what is right for our current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kalifire Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Is that thumbnail real? Did Johnson literally just steal Biden’s campaign slogan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, kalifire said: Is that thumbnail real? Did Johnson literally just steal Biden’s campaign slogan? They’ve both been using it. Global mandate to take over the world bro Edited June 6, 2021 by Matt42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmillen Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: Check out Neuralink that Elon Musk is developing. I’m genuinely interested in seeing what it can do. This is a good overview - albeit from a few years back: https://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html Very cool stuff. Although I’ve never been too keen on the concept since reading an SF story - William Gibson I think? - where some poor guy gets a virus in his neural implant that displays adverts 24/7. Shoots himself shortly after… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, kalifire said: Is that thumbnail real? Did Johnson literally just steal Biden’s campaign slogan? everybody uses it. It's almost as if they realise most voters are dumb as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, jimmillen said: This is a good overview - albeit from a few years back: https://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html Very cool stuff. Although I’ve never been too keen on the concept since reading an SF story - William Gibson I think? - where some poor guy gets a virus in his neural implant that displays adverts 24/7. Shoots himself shortly after… It maybe cool...but at same time I think it's a fuckin terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGABOWL Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 10:21 AM, philipsteak said: Now if there was a variant which only affected midges... We wouldn’t be able to go outside for weeks if all the midges started dropping out of the sky. Loch Lomond would burst its banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, steviewevie said: It maybe cool...but at same time I think it's a fuckin terrible idea. For the average person there’s probably not much need for it but as someone who has got a dodgy brain I’d be interested in if it could sort me out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said: For the average person there’s probably not much need for it but as someone who has got a dodgy brain I’d be interested in if it could sort me out. Fair dos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWillis2 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt42 said: But the US has opened vaccinations to 18+ so do we replicate their approach when we reach that stage? Or not? The difference with America is they get their second doses a lot quicker. Even if we had the supply to open up to over 18’s tomorrow and get them all in arms as quick as possible, it’s still another 3 months until they get the second dose. It was a lot easier to them to relax things for fully vaccinated people than it will be for us. We either have to wait longer or we take a different approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) This may look bad, but look at the percentages - mainly heading in the right direction, even if the infection rate is increasing everywhere, it's decelerating Edited June 6, 2021 by stuartbert two hats Changed "all" to "mainly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: This may look bad, but look at the percentages - mainly heading in the right direction, even if the infection rate is increasing everywhere, it's decelerating I'll take your word for it that this is good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: This may look bad, but look at the percentages - mainly heading in the right direction, even if the infection rate is increasing everywhere, it's decelerating Are these ever affected by weekend counting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BobWillis2 said: The difference with America is they get their second doses a lot quicker. Even if we had the supply to open up to over 18’s tomorrow and get them all in arms as quick as possible, it’s still another 3 months until they get the second dose. It was a lot easier to them to relax things for fully vaccinated people than it will be for us. We either have to wait longer or we take a different approach. You're basing that on old information that's changed and likely to change again. The current recommended gap between doses has already been reduced to 8 weeks, with centres currently having permission to deliver second doses as soon as 6 weeks after the first on AZ walk-ins and 4 weeks on Pfizer/Moderna. When we get in to the end game, with few or no first doses left to deliver and all the outstanding second doses being Pfizer/Moderna (we've not been delivering AZ first doses for a few weeks now), it's near certain that the recommendation will drop again to ~4 weeks as in many other countries. Edited June 6, 2021 by incident 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Has anyone in their 30’s managed to cancel their original 2nd dose appointment and rebook for the 8 week gap? Or is that only something 40+ can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWillis2 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, incident said: You're basing that on old information that's changed and likely to change again. The current recommended gap between doses has already been reduced to 8 weeks, with centres currently having permission to deliver second doses as soon as 6 weeks after the first on AZ walk-ins and 4 weeks on Pfizer/Moderna. When we get in to the end game, with few or no first doses left to deliver and all the outstanding second doses being Pfizer/Moderna (we've not been delivering AZ first doses for a few weeks now), it's near certain that the recommendation will drop again to ~4 weeks as in many other countries. Mine is still 11 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Just now, BobWillis2 said: Mine is still 11 weeks. When was it booked? Try again now, you might find you can move it up. Actually, having seen it done first hand, it wouldn't shock me if you get a phone call at some point offering you the chance to move it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWillis2 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, incident said: When was it booked? Try again now, you might find you can move it up. Actually, having seen it done first hand, it wouldn't shock me if you get a phone call at some point offering you the chance to move it up. It’s not booked I had it at the doctors. If I go on the national booking site I still can’t book a second dose until 11 weeks after the first. Edited June 6, 2021 by BobWillis2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 36 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Are these ever affected by weekend counting? No, I don't think so. That's just deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faymondo Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 3 hours ago, steviewevie said: hopefully we'll all have implants soon and we can order stuff by blinking or something. I thought my vaccine was the implant 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: I'll take your word for it that this is good news To be honest, I'm just posting it with a positive spin in the hope that someone will agree with me and then I'll actually believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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