JoeyT Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiochicken Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 Annoying aspect to the timing on the Indian variant is we’re never really going to get data on what relaxing Phase 3 restrictions REALLY does to numbers (unless I’m not clever enough and the science bods can still do this, but surely it’s all tangled together now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozanne Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 There’s going to be many different stories out in the next week detailing what will supposedly happen on June 21st. The exact same thing happened on the build up to the announcement of the roadmap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, JoeyT said: According to senior Government advisers, the current thinking in Downing Street is that many restrictions will need to remain in place after so-called “Freedom Day” to avoid another full lockdown in the autumn. If there's a lockdown in autumn, it won't be because we relaxed restrictions in summer. It will happen anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Schmitt Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, ShakeyCrash said: Finally talk moves away from restrictions lifting. I’ll go for: Ukraine 3 v 0 Austria North Macedonia 1 v 3 Netherlands Russia 1 v 1 Denmark definitely not, at least a draw, even if we are shit, but Arnautovic will be back for this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, JoeyT said: She’s been reading efests … poor woman 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, JoeyT said: Absolutely ridiculous capitulation Hopefully we get some civil unrest to show the govt the right way forward. Its been 15 months, enough is enough. Edited June 4, 2021 by zahidf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, zahidf said: Absolutely ridiculous capitulation Hopefully we get some civil unrest to show the govt the right way forward. Its been 15 months, enough is enough. ‘Hopefully we get some civil unrest’. That’s a bit over the top, go take a look at what civil unrest can lead too. Calm down. Edited June 4, 2021 by Ozanne 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, JoeyT said: HALLELUJAH!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Schmitt Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: According to senior Government advisers, the current thinking in Downing Street is that many restrictions will need to remain in place after so-called “Freedom Day” to avoid another full lockdown in the autumn. If there's a lockdown in autumn, it won't be because we relaxed restrictions in summer. It will happen anyway Totally with you. And the autumn/winter will be harder than the summer. summer is certainly the chance that governments should be better prepared for things to come, but summer has nothing to do with an autumn lockdown. come autumn a strong flu season is expected, new variants and people indoors, even with vaccination experts here are thinking for a hard season and do not exclude the possibility of a lockdown. so there is certainly a timeframe for nearly all things going on possible in the the coming months, but many experts say this timeframe will be in the summer and any delays could shorten this timeframe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Matador Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ozanne said: ‘Hopefully we get some civil unrest’. That’s a bit over the top, go take a look at what civil unrest can lead too. Calm down. I agree that it's not something anyone wants to see. Unfortunately I fear it's inevitable if restrictions are retained after 21st June. Kids were told last summer no partying otherwise you might kill your nan. This summer nan has had two doses of vaccine. If they're still being told there's no partying it's not going to sit well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, El Matador said: I agree that it's not something anyone wants to see. Unfortunately I fear it's inevitable if restrictions are retained after 21st June. Kids were told last summer no partying otherwise you might kill your nan. This summer nan has had two doses of vaccine. If they're still being told there's no partying it's not going to sit well. I’m sorry but I disagree, there might be protests to some degree but I really can’t any civil unrest if some restrictions stay in place. Especially considering what things were like only 2 months ago. Yes it will suck and people will be annoyed I’m sure but I think many will carry on and enjoy what they can do now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, zahidf said: Absolutely ridiculous capitulation I agree, they shouldn't be relaxing anything at this point. To allow any extra freedoms at this point is reckless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Matador Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ozanne said: I’m sorry but I disagree, there might be protests to some degree but I really can’t any civil unrest if some restrictions stay in place. Especially considering what things were like only 2 months ago. Yes it will suck and people will be annoyed I’m sure but I think many will carry on and enjoy what they can do now. Hope you're right but I don't see it. If the kids can't party legally then they're going to party illegally and that's when problems start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 27 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said: HALLELUJAH!!! so well done got what u want now ... fucking hell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, zahidf said: Hopefully we get some civil unrest to show the govt the right way forward. Its been 15 months, enough is enough. can u let me know when? I like to watch these things u gonna wear the efest t-shirt so I can spot you .... and shout about variants, Christina Pagel and face nappies ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeyT said: Over 6k again is shocking! Not long back we were seeing real progress in the low 2s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, thewayiam said: Over 6k again is shocking! Not long back we were seeing real progress in the low 2s. This is because of Johnson and his government, we would be looking at opening up fully in 3 weeks if they had put India on the red list. This is all on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ozanne said: This is because of Johnson and his government, we would be looking at opening up fully in 3 weeks if they had put India on the red list. This is all on them. I disagree. They've put India on the red list 6 weeks ago, during this time numbers and deaths went very low. The lack of vaccinations is causing a big issue. But we can't force people who don't want it to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, thewayiam said: I disagree. They've put India on the red list 6 weeks ago, during this time numbers and deaths went very low. The lack of vaccinations is causing a big issue. But we can't force people who don't want it to have it. They should’ve put India on the red list when they put Pakistan and Bangladesh on there. They didn’t and as a result they allowed the Delta Variant to come into the country easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, thewayiam said: The lack of vaccinations is causing a big issue. But we can't force people who don't want it to have it. lack of ? or speed of ? the uptake is still looking really good for a bit though its been focussed on second doses so wont be helping control infection numbers ... and in that period we have gone to indoor mixing again ... which was always the riskiest stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 @Lycra what is your experience of how things are going now in terms of illness .... and treatment for covid patients ? looks like some are in hospital for very short periods of time ? what treatment would someone need in those circumstances ? and have you seen many patients that haven't had the jab at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: lack of ? or speed of ? the uptake is still looking really good for a bit though its been focussed on second doses so wont be helping control infection numbers ... and in that period we have gone to indoor mixing again ... which was always the riskiest stage I think it's lack of now. If people are saying no and not taking their option, that number will not be the highest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertProsineckisLighter Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeyT said: Is she going on holiday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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