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2 minutes ago, Paul ™ said:

I got one sent to my old address in Scotland, despite moving away 6 years ago and registered at a doctor's in Nottingham since then 

It's an absolute shambles, the move to level one that was due next week looks like it'll be put on hold for the central belt as cases start to rise again. Vaccines are the way out of this and we're fucking it up. It makes me so angry.

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2 minutes ago, mcshed said:

Saint Nicola? Make a mistake? Unheard of!

We can't let people book online that's what nasty Westminster are doing and we can't be like them.

Not living in scotland this is the first i’m hearing of this. Absolutely absurd! Its 2021 FFS!

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1 minute ago, Memory Man said:

Ive always been of the opinion its not especially likely that we’d be gigging and clubbing indoors until everyone has had at least one dose.

However once that is the case, we need to be, without delay! 

im happy to accept less than full normality until basically the end of july at the latest. After that it would simply be complete overkill. 

Yeah think this is probably how a lot of people feel. I want ‘this shit to end’ as much as anybody, but it doesn’t really make much sense to fully open up before offering every adult a vaccine first - even if the younger ones are likely to be largely unaffected by it. 
Still convinced the government were aiming for all adults to be offered a jab by June 1st .. add 3 weeks for it to start working .. and there was the 21st June date was drawn up. Either supply, logistics issues or higher than anticipated demand has scuppered those plans by a month or so I’d say.

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2 minutes ago, st dan said:

Yeah think this is probably how a lot of people feel. I want ‘this shit to end’ as much as anybody, but it doesn’t really make much sense to fully open up before offering every adult a vaccine first - even if the younger ones are likely to be largely unaffected by it. 
Still convinced the government were aiming for all adults to be offered a jab by June 1st .. add 3 weeks for it to start working .. and there was the 21st June date was drawn up. Either supply, logistics issues or higher than anticipated demand has scuppered those plans by a month or so I’d say.

well, they're rushing to get not only all adults jabbed, but for all over 50 (or 40) 2nd jabs...because of the lower efficacy of single dose against the indian variant. 

I just think gigs and clubs can wait to end of August maybe...most gigs won't be going ahead till autumn anyway.

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7 minutes ago, st dan said:

Yeah think this is probably how a lot of people feel. I want ‘this shit to end’ as much as anybody, but it doesn’t really make much sense to fully open up before offering every adult a vaccine first - even if the younger ones are likely to be largely unaffected by it. 
Still convinced the government were aiming for all adults to be offered a jab by June 1st .. add 3 weeks for it to start working .. and there was the 21st June date was drawn up. Either supply, logistics issues or higher than anticipated demand has scuppered those plans by a month or so I’d say.

It might make sense if we didn't keep hearing about how these cases are in fact translating into hospitalisations, primarily in the groups who haven't yet had chance to be jabbed.

We're so close, seems like another own goal not to hold out just a little longer. 

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Just now, Matt42 said:

God the arm ache from this jab comes on sudden doesn’t it? Just before going to sleep it’s like someone’s pressing down on my arm

i didnt get mine till a few days later but only from jab1 .... really odd how we all get affected differently .... how much have you jumped by getting to Twickenham today ? did you have an original date booked up ?

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10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

well, they're rushing to get not only all adults jabbed, but for all over 50 (or 40) 2nd jabs...because of the lower efficacy of single dose against the indian variant. 

I just think gigs and clubs can wait to end of August maybe...most gigs won't be going ahead till autumn anyway.

 I think that's the case as well and it sounds like a fair(ish) way of doing things as the government support is still there. I'm thinking a delay of a few weeks so we can properly finish this off is better than coming out of lockdown fully on 21st June and potentially having issues down the line.

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2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

i didnt get mine till a few days later but only from jab1 .... really odd how we all get affected differently .... how much have you jumped by getting to Twickenham today ? did you have an original date booked up ?

No date at all. I am only 24 so I’m way off even being asked to book yet.

Feel like I’m part of a pilot scheme as when I rung up to book my second jab I had to explain to them how on earth I got my first one. They weren’t aware of the twickenham situation. 


They said that I have to wait until my age group becomes eligible to book my second. She said mark up 12 weeks in your calendar and when you get close to it ring up and book.

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47 minutes ago, st dan said:

The mistake was always providing dates for the stages of the roadmap, despite barking on about it being about ‘data not dates’.
If June 21st wasn’t given in the first place, I think we’d all be relatively happy waiting until all adults to have their first vaccine before fully unlocking, which would probably be around mid July. 

Aye, surely they could/should have used the catch-all ‘early summer’ deadline?

They’re speaking to journalists about tomorrow’s front pages on the news now and they seem fully behind pushing the date back a little bit.

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6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 I'm thinking a delay of a few weeks so we can properly finish this off is better than coming out of lockdown fully on 21st June and potentially having issues down the line.

Its the sensible / considered view at this time i think. It really wont be too much longer after the 21st june that we can say we have offered a vaccine to everyone over 18. That should be a time to reflect on what an amazing feat it is and be able to, in good conscience, declare everything open

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4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

If anything how things are going after step 3 kind of proves the cautious approach to the roadmap has been the right approach.

How things are going? You mean the fact deaths are incredibly low and hospitals are fine. Slight rise in cases is hardly a disaster 

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6 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

There's a doubling rate of about 4 days in some areas. 

It's also because the data is delayed so we don't know the impacts of step 3 yet and won't for another couple of weeks. That has ultimately been why they have had the 5 week gap in between the steps which combined with the rising prevalence of the virus (for me at least) shows that the cautious approach has been the right one.

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16 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

If anything, how things are going after step 3 kind of proves the cautious approach to the roadmap has been the right approach.

Yeah definitely, have to see where we are June 14th...we'll just have to find something else to talk about till then....

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30 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

No date at all. I am only 24 so I’m way off even being asked to book yet.

Feel like I’m part of a pilot scheme as when I rung up to book my second jab I had to explain to them how on earth I got my first one. They weren’t aware of the twickenham situation. 


They said that I have to wait until my age group becomes eligible to book my second. She said mark up 12 weeks in your calendar and when you get close to it ring up and book.

I think she's given you some duff advice there.

Once the first dose is registered, and the booking system has updated to pick that up, then you should be able to book a second dose.

Give it a short while - probably tomorrow, or if not then Wednesday and you should be able to do it via the web site.

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38 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Telegraph suddenly concerned about some place called third world.

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They must mean the reggae dancey band Third World from the 80s, they deserve it asap just for the couple of banging classics as well as being well oap by now surely.

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20 minutes ago, incident said:

I think she's given you some duff advice there.

Once the first dose is registered, and the booking system has updated to pick that up, then you should be able to book a second dose.

Give it a short while - probably tomorrow, or if not then Wednesday and you should be able to do it via the web site.

Thank you!

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4 hours ago, crazyfool1 said:

Just out of interest how much are people currently getting hit by year groups and classes isolating ? prevalence of the virus is very low here and ive not heard about it for ages involving local schools .... I imagine its more of a northern thing where cases are high ?  how many weeks school have peoples kids missed since returning after last lockdown ? 

My eldests (6-year-old) Primary School has 40+ cases and a lot more off self isolating. My lad went in on Friday and there was 11 in his class, and he’s now been T&T’ed and is off this week. Negative PCR Test yesterday. There’s a couple of schools in Renfrewshire with outbreaks which is going a long way to accounting for the big rise here.

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