Havors Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said: I think you will find I quoted him at the time and asked the same of him … it just makes the forum much more pleasant to be reading … Agreed. I would like it to be more pleasant and people should not shit on others because they have a different point of view. I also think a good amount of people need a crash course in sarcasm... its often mistaken for attacking someone. In the grand scheme of the internet though this thread is about as civilized as its ever going to get haha! It's not really that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 So the PMs main advisor and the Cab Sec both said that the PM should sack his Health Sec as he’s constantly lying in meetings yet the PM does nothing, what does that say about the PM? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Havors said: Agreed. I would like it to be more pleasant and people should not shit on others because they have a different point of view. I also think a good amount of people need a crash course in sarcasm... its often mistaken for attacking someone. In the grand scheme of the internet though this thread is about as civilized as its ever going to get haha! It's not really that bad. Ha ha well I don’t go far … although limited experience of twitter is not great … so I’m sure you are right … perhaps why I don’t fancy it dropping to those kind of standards 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Ozanne said: So the PMs main advisor and the Cab Sec both said that the PM should sack his Health Sec as he’s constantly lying in meetings yet the PM does nothing, what does that say about the PM? Indeed. They both need to resign... The only thing worse than incompetence is even more incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, crazyfool1 said: Ha ha well I don’t go far … although limited experience of twitter is not great … so I’m sure you are right … perhaps why I don’t fancy it dropping to those kind of standards 🙂 Oh twitter is a horrible horrible place!! I wish it wasnt such a good source of information. 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfool1 Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Havors said: Oh twitter is a horrible horrible place!! I wish it wasnt such a good source of information. 😞 Mind you on a positive there are some fantastic Glastonbury accounts on there … which are the ones I mostly follow 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, crazyfool1 said: Mind you on a positive there are some fantastic Glastonbury accounts on there … which are the ones I mostly follow 🙂 yeah thats what i mean... you get brilliant accounts with loads of interesting content.... which somehow still manage to attract horrible nasty and very stupid people haha! Cant live with it, cant live without it ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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efcfanwirral Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Ozanne said: In normal times they could get away with it but when lockdowns and an NHS in danger are involved it definitely doesn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 A constant stream of shit...and the country will just shrug and most likely polling will go up because people don't like Cummings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said: A constant stream of shit...and the country will just shrug and most likely polling will go up because people don't like Cummings Yup you can see it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Some good figures from Bolton. Fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ace56blaa said: Well don't buy into the Sunak is okay shit. DC is clearly leaving out any attacks on Rishi and Give cause he believes they could take over. But Sunak did well with furlough at first. However he refused to fix glaring issues with that furlough. Let's not forget how he was just as deceitful in parliament and still pretends he "left no one behind" while simultaneously saying he couldn't save any job. Sunak is just as bad as the rest of them and complicit in their failings. Let's not fall into domcums trap Cummings is attacking competence/process, not policy. Sunak is not a nice guy but his contributions to the pandemic stuff were competent and worked (furlough, etc.) I agree it didn't go far enough, but I think that was by design, rather than incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memory Man Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 The biggest F up of all surely was having absolutely no plan for a pandemic seemingly whatsoever any political party should now be standing on the idea of having thorough and complete plans ready for most forseeable disaster / crisis scenarios should they arise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st dan Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Memory Man said: The biggest F up of all surely was having absolutely no plan for a pandemic seemingly whatsoever any political party should now be standing on the idea of having thorough and complete plans ready for most forseeable disaster / crisis scenarios should they arise. Agreed, but seems like this was also an oversight for more or less every country in Europe, and the US. I just don’t think any governments really believed anything like this would happen on their watch, although that doesn’t wash as the scientists knew it was a matter of when, not if. Having no real experience to go off means they kind of did have to make it up as they went along - even if they had a plan and modelling it would have been pretty useless in the face of a real crisis I think. But even off the cuff, it could have been handled much better with strong leadership. At least for the next pandemic they will be using Covid as the benchmark, and should hopefully now have the data to show that you need to lockdown early and for the necessary duration, and be proactive rather than reactive throughout. And any outbreaks must be taken seriously ASAP, rather than trying to pass it off like everything will be ok, as it’s clear happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 59 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: I think you will find I quoted him at the time and asked the same of him … it just makes the forum much more pleasant to be reading … Ah, fray and his fave clique word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 If only Dom had been in charge, everything would have been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MEGABOWL Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, efcfanwirral said: If gove took over do we think that'd change the roadmap to a more cautious one? It could even be that Cummings thinks if he can get rid of Johnson that maybe he can save the country from the next wave if he thinks we're rushing things.... I don’t think Mr.Barnard Castle gives a shit. It’s all a game to him. Let’s not suddenly set up Captain Brexit as some kind of white knight riding to the rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 48 minutes ago, zahidf said: Some good figures from Bolton. Fingers crossed Thank goodness 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Fish Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said: I don’t think Mr.Barnard Castle gives a shit. It’s all a game to him. Let’s not suddenly set up Captain Brexit as some kind of white knight riding to the rescue. No but he has been centre of government and is telling all - and a lot of it - the dots join up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barry Fish Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Cummings really defending Patrick Vallance. Happy about this. I got the impression from the papers he had fucked up but its clear he was a big part of getting us in the right place on all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Has he admitted brexit was a terrible mistake yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Have they talked about the delays in implementing lockdown in autumn and winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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