When will this shit end?

[Leyrulion]

18 hours ago, zahidf said:

Hmmmn

 

This would be logical, with cases dropping below 10,000 a week by then, that's probably in the region where local public health teams can easily track cases.

[stuartbert two hats]

16 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Uh oh

The question is, will it be guidance or carry the force of law?

[zahidf]

5 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

The question is, will it be guidance or carry the force of law?

Hopefully guidance so we can ignore it

[zahidf]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/02/the-end-of-lockdown-exactly-how-much-freedom-will-we-have?__twitter_impression=true

[Ozanne]

29 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

The question is, will it be guidance or carry the force of law?

But they said all restrictions would end on June 21st? They wouldn’t go back on what they have said would they?

Lets see what they say after the elections on Thursday. 

[Radiochicken]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

Uh oh

Sometimes saying nothing is better than saying something. 

[Matt42]

What I’m interested to know is the law on masks.

Ngl I wouldn’t be against still wearing a mask on the tube / in some shops, airports, airplanes... but I wouldn’t wear one in the office or in pubs or restaurants so I don’t really think my logic is sound. Feels to myself like I’m just picking and choosing with what I’d prefer.

Is this just a comfort blanket thing? Or maybe that the virus has scared some new habits into us?

[Leyrulion]

4 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

What I’m interested to know is the law on masks.

Ngl I wouldn’t be against still wearing a mask on the tube / in some shops, airports, airplanes... but I wouldn’t wear one in the office or in pubs or restaurants so I don’t really think my logic is sound. Feels to myself like I’m just picking and choosing with what I’d prefer.

Is this just a comfort blanket thing? Or maybe that the virus has scared some new habits into us?

You don't need to wear one in a restaurant now? 

I think they'll be a legal requirement on public transport and guidance elsewhere in crowded situations without testing. 

[steviewevie]

Got an email from work saying we're back in the office from 17th May. Bummer.

[crazyfool1]

7 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

What I’m interested to know is the law on masks.

Ngl I wouldn’t be against still wearing a mask on the tube / in some shops, airports, airplanes... but I wouldn’t wear one in the office or in pubs or restaurants so I don’t really think my logic is sound. Feels to myself like I’m just picking and choosing with what I’d prefer.

Is this just a comfort blanket thing? Or maybe that the virus has scared some new habits into us?

Or the alternative that they have been effective and will keep some of the winter viruses in check and allow the nhs a chance to catch up … we all know how close it comes to capacity over winter and adding covid to that mix is gonna be a push …. We will see … currently I think I’d like them gone … but it’s not quite so simple … 

[stuie]

39 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

You don't need to wear one in a restaurant now? 

I think they'll be a legal requirement on public transport and guidance elsewhere in crowded situations without testing. 

But we aren’t allowed ‘in’ a restaurant now? I was wondering if when we are allowed to dine inside if we’ll have to wear masks on the way to the table and for toilet trips like before? 

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

But they said all restrictions would end on June 21st? They wouldn’t go back on what they have said would they?

Lets see what they say after the elections on Thursday. 

They said “all restrictions on social contact” would end. 
 

The last three words are doing a lot of heavy lifting there. What that means is that you can meet up with as many mates as you want. It doesn’t mean you don’t need to cover your face on the tube or self-isolate if you test positive or that there won’t be some sort of covid certification to attend a mass gathering. 

[efcfanwirral]

12 minutes ago, stuie said:

But we aren’t allowed ‘in’ a restaurant now? I was wondering if when we are allowed to dine inside if we’ll have to wear masks on the way to the table and for toilet trips like before? 

100% - at the very least that'll be required for the 5 weeks then it's a real debate about whether these places can open at full capacity or not. I'm going to guess not to be honest, without being willing to ask for certification 

[Ozanne]

20 minutes ago, stuie said:

But we aren’t allowed ‘in’ a restaurant now? I was wondering if when we are allowed to dine inside if we’ll have to wear masks on the way to the table and for toilet trips like before? 

I think as it’ll be table service only, drinks to be had whilst seated then we will need to wear face masks when moving around a pub. 

[squirrelarmy]

In the last year how often has anyone had a bad cold or flu? Mask wearing has been brought in to combat Covid but it’s also reduced the level of common illnesses too.

[JoshD]

On 5/1/2021 at 11:55 AM, eFestivals said:

For anyone thinking the uk vaccination rollout has been impressive. Just check out the USA which did 220,0000,000jabs in 100 days. And that's without the benefit of a centralised health system. 

Very impressive, but they’re now in the position of opening jabs to anyone, your choice of vaccine. That’s actually bad news as it means supply is outstripping demand and they are approaching the limit of voluntary uptake. Even if it takes us a month or so longer I’d be happier with our track where uptake is well above 90%. More people wanting doses than we can supply despite being among the earliest and fastest in the world is the “right problem to have” as they say. 

[philipsteak]

37 minutes ago, stuie said:

But we aren’t allowed ‘in’ a restaurant now? I was wondering if when we are allowed to dine inside if we’ll have to wear masks on the way to the table and for toilet trips like before? 

Think that's what we are planning for, but in all honesty no one has a clue yet. 

[stuartbert two hats]

10 minutes ago, JoshD said:

Very impressive, but they’re now in the position of opening jabs to anyone, your choice of vaccine. That’s actually bad news as it means supply is outstripping demand and they are approaching the limit of voluntary uptake. Even if it takes us a month or so longer I’d be happier with our track where uptake is well above 90%. More people wanting doses than we can supply despite being among the earliest and fastest in the world is the “right problem to have” as they say. 

Besides, the UK still has a higher proportion vaccinated than the US. With their uptake issues, they may never overtake us.

[st dan]

Seeing and hearing an almost capacity crowd at The Crucible for the snooker final is just superb, and the first time it’s actually hit me that we are (or should be) on the way back to normality. 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

In the last year how often has anyone had a bad cold or flu? Mask wearing has been brought in to combat Covid but it’s also reduced the level of common illnesses too.

Is it the mask or is it the fact your haven't seen anyone?

[squirrelarmy]

16 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

Is it the mask or is it the fact your haven't seen anyone?

I’d say it’s the mask. I’ve been back at work for a while and on public transport a lot

[zahidf]

Interesting

 

[Ozanne]

1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

In the last year how often has anyone had a bad cold or flu? Mask wearing has been brought in to combat Covid but it’s also reduced the level of common illnesses too.

I agree, mask wearing has reducing bugs all round. I wouldn’t be surprised if they want them to be worn inside public areas during next winter.

[efcfanwirral]

16 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Interesting

 

Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it. I obviously want to go to these events if they happen, but I think there's no real scientific basis for allowing them.

I'm also still not convinced it's going to be approved after the events, but the timing will help push the positivity for the local elections. We can then get some honesty on the plans after 21st June hopefully  

I saw a scientist interview saying it'd so important we keep prevalence down over summer ahead of the winter period. And obviously this sort of thing goes against that aim

Realistically to achieve that we need a set of parameters whereby if cases go above a certain number then areas get restrictions put back on them, cancelling mass gatherings by default as no insurance. Hopefully not where we end up 

[zahidf]

7 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it. I obviously want to go to these events if they happen, but I think there's no real scientific basis for allowing them.

I'm also still not convinced it's going to be approved after the events, but the timing will help push the positivity for the local elections. We can then get some honesty on the plans after 21st June hopefully  

I saw a scientist interview saying it'd so important we keep prevalence down over summer ahead of the winter period. And obviously this sort of thing goes against that aim

Realistically to achieve that we need a set of parameters whereby if cases go above a certain number then areas get restrictions put back on them, cancelling mass gatherings by default as no insurance. Hopefully not where we end up 

The scientific basis is that they are trials to see how safe they are with cases low. Answer will be safe hoepfully

 

Well that's moving the goalposts by saying that we need restrictions when case numbers are low 'just in case ' when loads of the population are vaccinated 

But I think it's more likely that these results will be used an excuse to show that these events can go ahead with no restrictions. That may change if cases start rising, but if we stay on top with booster shots then I don't think social distancing will be needed.

Edited May 2, 2021 by zahidf