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21 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I don't mean this in a confrontational way, but what do you think social distancing is?

When I read stuff like it continuing for years, I read that as us having to be somewhat conscious of distance in social settings for a long time to come. That doesn't mean not being able to see friends, not being able to go to the pub, etc. But it might mean trying to avoid crowds, not shaking hands with absolutely everyone at a business meeting, that sort of thing.

It's about having an awareness of distance because something nasty is still circulating, albeit at a low level. It's about avoiding unnecessary contact. Just with the caveat that having fun is still "necessary".

That isn't going to happen.  
People will snap back to normal as quickly as allowed too.  Human nature isn't going to be altered by a year long shit show.

We act like this is the first time this has happened and its bollocks.  Its not the first virus to disrupt society.  We will rebound back to normal one day - its just working out how long off that is.

People who claim this will change us forever need a slap around the head with the reality stick.

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6 minutes ago, George_92 said:

 

 

The removing the stay at home rule makes the regs a hell of a lot more complex.

 

For example there’s no explicit ban of going on holiday atm, you’re just not allowed to leave your house without a valid excuse (and going on holiday isn’t a valid excuse)

 

Now that the stay at home rule is gone, the government has to explicitly ban a lot more things. 

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1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

Basically they are going to blame the third wave in Europe for any rise in cases here even if the rise here is due to the restrictions ending. Covering their arses and will be used as a soundbite if they have to go back on the agreed dates for lifting further restrictions. 

Surely any wave is irrelevant if the vaccine actually works. If it works then the hospitalisations and serious illness will be next to nothing. Coupled with the apparent ability to break infection (think i read reduces approx 60+%). 

I think it all depends on how the government react to increased positive tests. Which for me is not the same thing as a case. If nobody is getting sick then everything should go ahead as planned. Lockdowns were only ever to protect the NHS....... apparently. 

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1 minute ago, Havors said:

Surely any wave is irrelevant if the vaccine actually works. If it works then the hospitalisations and serious illness will be next to nothing. Coupled with the apparent ability to break infection (think i read reduces approx 60+%). 

I think it all depends on how the government react to increased positive tests. Which for me is not the same thing as a case. If nobody is getting sick then everything should go ahead as planned. Lockdowns were only ever to protect the NHS....... apparently. 

Yeah agreed. A study came out in the US where the AZ vaccine was found to prevent 79% of symptoms and 100% of serious illness + hospitalisation. Thats real world. 

I don't see us having a 3rd wave.

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11 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

The removing the stay at home rule makes the regs a hell of a lot more complex.

 

For example there’s no explicit ban of going on holiday atm, you’re just not allowed to leave your house without a valid excuse (and going on holiday isn’t a valid excuse)

 

Now that the stay at home rule is gone, the government has to explicitly ban a lot more things. 

I was wondering about this. Living in London zone 3, when the April date comes, I was wondering if we would be 'allowed' to get on a train and go to a nice restaurant in town, as opposed to going to a local pub garden (which is what we have booked). Does anyone know?

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5 minutes ago, Homer said:

I was wondering about this. Living in London zone 3, when the April date comes, I was wondering if we would be 'allowed' to get on a train and go to a nice restaurant in town, as opposed to going to a local pub garden (which is what we have booked). Does anyone know?

Yes you would.

 

The stay at home rule ends a week from today. Technically you could board a train for 3 hours to go and sit in someone’s garden in Newcastle. 
 

You might not want to because it would be a pain in the arse to trek up there if it were to start raining and technically you wouldn’t even be able to go in for a wee or stay overnight, but once the stay at home rule ends there is nothing stopping you travelling anywhere in England 

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2 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Boris says we need to corporate.  I can feel a deal bring struck.  Face saving time in operation

If previous deals between the EU and Britain are anything to go by it's going to take about 5 years to reach an agreement...

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7 minutes ago, aj6658 said:

Yeah agreed. A study came out in the US where the AZ vaccine was found to prevent 79% of symptoms and 100% of serious illness + hospitalisation. Thats real world. 

I don't see us having a 3rd wave.

I would say I don't see us having a real 3rd wave. I can see is possible us having a noticeable increase in positive tests... which are not the same as cases for me. We are at the mercy of the possible hysteria that may ensue. Even though nobody is getting seriously ill. 

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41 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

That isn't going to happen.  
People will snap back to normal as quickly as allowed too.  Human nature isn't going to be altered by a year long shit show.

We act like this is the first time this has happened and its bollocks.  Its not the first virus to disrupt society.  We will rebound back to normal one day - its just working out how long off that is.

People who claim this will change us forever need a slap around the head with the reality stick.

The snowflake who thinks we should nuke Germany thinks I need a slap with the reality stick. 

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4 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

If previous deals between the EU and Britain are anything to go by it's going to take about 5 years to reach an agreement...

Lol

Apparently we are trying to agree sharing the dutch jabs they haven't yet approved.  Jesus wept 😜

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Also worth noting that the rest of Europe wouldn’t be on the brink (if not in the midst of) of a 3rd wave if they hadn’t relaxed restrictions like the majority of them have done. 
Feels like we really got a hold of this by ensuring strict restrictions were in place until the most vulnerable (those in groups 1-9) were vaccinated. Means we have been able to get on top of this rather than chasing our tails. None of us have enjoyed this 3 months lockdown, but it’s saved tens of thousands of lives both in the short and long term. 

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45 minutes ago, George_92 said:

 

 

So does this mean we should expect some formal nod that Step 1 is happening next Monday as we are a week out? Is there a press conference today? 

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9 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

There's little wonder why the USA has such an obesity problem...

I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast last week and he was saying how odd it is that such little emphasis has been put on getting your shit together if you're obese when COVID clearly causes more trouble to those who are unfit / unhealthy.

Obviously this isn't the case for everyone due to age and so on but the fact very few people would have helped themselves during this and have simply relied on the scientists to create vaccines to put them at less risk really is something to behold isn't it...

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8 minutes ago, Chef said:

So does this mean we should expect some formal nod that Step 1 is happening next Monday as we are a week out? Is there a press conference today? 

 

Actually I think it's a week before April 12th they'll start saying whether it can Happen

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6 minutes ago, Chef said:

So does this mean we should expect some formal nod that Step 1 is happening next Monday as we are a week out? Is there a press conference today? 

When the roadmap was announced, both parts of Step 1 on 8th and 29th March were given as firm dates - it's only April onwards that "not before" became part of the wording. So on paper there shouldn't need to be any formal confirmation.

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5 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

There's little wonder why the USA has such an obesity problem...

I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast last week and he was saying how odd it is that such little emphasis has been put on getting your shit together if you're obese when COVID clearly causes more trouble to those who are unfit / unhealthy.

Obviously this isn't the case for everyone due to age and so on but the fact very few people would have helped themselves during this and have simply relied on the scientists to create vaccines to put them at less risk really is something to behold isn't it...

yeah, but once you're vaccinated...who cares!

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28 minutes ago, st dan said:

Also worth noting that the rest of Europe wouldn’t be on the brink (if not in the midst of) of a 3rd wave if they hadn’t relaxed restrictions like the majority of them have done. 
Feels like we really got a hold of this by ensuring strict restrictions were in place until the most vulnerable (those in groups 1-9) were vaccinated. Means we have been able to get on top of this rather than chasing our tails. None of us have enjoyed this 3 months lockdown, but it’s saved tens of thousands of lives both in the short and long term. 

I said the other day but it’s funny how things change, just a few weeks ago people were complaining that our lockdown was the strictest in the world and now we are nearing the end of that lockdown we are seeing the opposite. 

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