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9 minutes ago, Simsy said:

It shouldn't be "I'd better not harass/rape/kill a woman because there are cops around and I might get caught".

We need to tackle the misogynistic culture that leads to women not being safe.

True... and we have been doing.  To me it feels a much improved picture since the 80s for example.  But I speak as a man.  Takes a long time to change culture.

But we have to recognise enforcement is part of it all.

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1 hour ago, zahidf said:

 

Great news.

Pity those leaders within the EU can’t see that pausing the vaccination programme due to sub 40 cases of blood clotting in 17 million doses given out between both the EU and UK is shooting themselves in the foot.

Release us Boris.

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11 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

@crazyfool1Sounds good - will be even more of a celebration to see your parents properly!

What are everyone else’s plans for the next easing/over Easter weekend? I think a walk with friends is needed and garden visits to parents and in-laws.

Seeing some family and friends we were due to see over Christmas i believe, will try a BBQ if its nice enough weather but will also probably go for a walk or something too 

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1 hour ago, zahidf said:

 

This is very interesting. Isreal have vaccinated 57% of adults. I believe that we are coming up or already at 50%. If not we certainly will be in a couple of weeks with the massive uptick we're going to see (think there is expectation of hitting 5m a week). 

 

Again if its data not dates we should be accelerating the release. Amount of the adult population that has immunity either from the vaccine or exposure is easily the majority.

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4 minutes ago, danbailey80 said:

Why does everyone refer to 'the EU' when talking about stopping the Oxford vaccine? Norway is not in the EU. It's 'some European countries' not the EU. The EU hasn't said anything about it.

Genuine question.

Because it’s lazy and easy to just blame the EU. Those people ignore the fact that Norway, Iceland, Indonesia are not in the EU. The EMA has said is safe, individual countries are cautious because several people died after receiving the vaccine. The countries are just pausing to investigate.

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3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Because it’s lazy and easy to just blame the EU. Those people ignore the fact that Norway, Iceland, Indonesia are not in the EU. The EMA has said is safe, individual countries are cautious because several people died after receiving the vaccine. The countries are just pausing to investigate.

Raab was on the news earlier saying this. Seemed to be making a point that it was countries within the EU, not the EU itself, that had put things on hold and said how people should still get their jabs when called as regulators have declared it safe.

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10 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Another good report from Sky

Pointed out its not just blood clotting they have seen a spike in - but a very rare version of it in the brain they have spotted a spike in.
 

That is something a bit different entirely.  I don't think we should stop giving it out but it certainly makes this more of an issue than we first thought earlier today.

99.9% of the time you annoy the hell out of me - but I’m sure you know that!

However, on this you at least have acknowledged that there may be an issue beyond all the rhetoric of ‘nothing to see here/move along/it’s all political etc etc

I was also going along with the message that the incidence of blood clots was no greater than the general unvaccinated population. There is no one greater than me as a cheerleader for University of Oxford’s Jenner Institute and Oxford Vaccine Group - I’ve  followed the progress of Professor Sarah Gilbert’s team since early last year and have nothing but admiration for her and the team behind the development.

However, @Toiletduck mentioned that it was more nuanced than ‘general’ blood clots so as I respect their expertise I looked beyond the general consensus. This appears to be a cluster of a rare form of blood clot (cerebral venous sinus thrombosis?) in young, healthy people which is unusual. It seems to be linked to a certain batch so it certainly should be properly investigated and not brushed under the carpet. I really, really hope that it turns out to be a random occurrence.

There are no unusual incidents reported in the UK so I agree it’s safe to continue with the vaccination programme but if there was a problem here I would hope that the same due diligence would happen - surely in the long run this increases faith in vaccine rollouts?

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4 minutes ago, danbailey80 said:

Why does everyone refer to 'the EU' when talking about stopping the Oxford vaccine? Norway is not in the EU. It's 'some European countries' not the EU. The EU hasn't said anything about it.

Genuine question.

Ignorance?

It's probably worth repeating that the EMA recommend continued use of the vaccine pending investigation.  Which seems to be an entirely correct response IMHO.

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8 minutes ago, onthebeach said:

99.9% of the time you annoy the hell out of me - but I’m sure you know that!

However, on this you at least have acknowledged that there may be an issue beyond all the rhetoric of ‘nothing to see here/move along/it’s all political etc etc

I was also going along with the message that the incidence of blood clots was no greater than the general unvaccinated population. There is no one greater than me as a cheerleader for University of Oxford’s Jenner Institute and Oxford Vaccine Group - I’ve  followed the progress of Professor Sarah Gilbert’s team since early last year and have nothing but admiration for her and the team behind the development.

However, @Toiletduck mentioned that it was more nuanced than ‘general’ blood clots so as I respect their expertise I looked beyond the general consensus. This appears to be a cluster of a rare form of blood clot (cerebral venous sinus thrombosis?) in young, healthy people which is unusual. It seems to be linked to a certain batch so it certainly should be properly investigated and not brushed under the carpet. I really, really hope that it turns out to be a random occurrence.

There are no unusual incidents reported in the UK so I agree it’s safe to continue with the vaccination programme but if there was a problem here I would hope that the same due diligence would happen - surely in the long run this increases faith in vaccine rollouts?

Just following the facts.  I did the same with the policing of the vigil.  Presume you also watched sky's report on that ? 

Nothing wrong with annoying people and having a different opinion.  Funny enough no one annoys me here for having alternative view points no matter how crazy.  More makes me laugh.

It's snowing heavily recently.  Bit unusual for March.

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