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Just now, zahidf said:

It could.be enough to vote Boris out as leader.

I think boris and cummings have REALLY misunderstood how pissed of people are at this.

They can't until Johnson has been in charge for a year, they changed the rule when he became leader.

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53 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

The other thing is, if Cummings is so smart surely he could see what damage this would do, all he had to do was resign and apologise, and he could come back in a few months once the coronavirus problem has gone, this way he may still have to go but cause major damage to the government.

Cummings is smart but he's no genius.

The current playbook for this is right out of what they did with Brexit for years: keep moving the goalposts and straight up telling people that things were not how they remember.

Like how it was always going to be a no deal Brexit and remaining in the single market was never even mentioned as an option. When in fact it was widely discussed in the run up to the referendum. But you just tell people it never happened and they believe you.

This response to the Cummings thing is the exact same, except this isn't challenge people's memories, but their actual lived experience. Which is a whole other kettle of fish. And Cummings isn't smart enough to get that.

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Just now, DeanoL said:

Cummings is smart but he's no genius.

The current playbook for this is right out of what they did with Brexit for years: keep moving the goalposts and straight up telling people that things were not how they remember.

Like how it was always going to be a no deal Brexit and remaining in the single market was never even mentioned as an option. When in fact it was widely discussed in the run up to the referendum. But you just tell people it never happened and they believe you.

This response to the Cummings thing is the exact same, except this isn't challenge people's memories, but their actual lived experience. Which is a whole other kettle of fish. And Cummings isn't smart enough to get that.

Yeah, he relied on the fact that people kind of tuned out Brexit after a while, so forgot the details, but nobody is forgetting the fact that they can't see their family.

The latest is that his mum is complaining that her brother had just died (the day he arrived in Durham) and nobody seems bothered they were/are grieving. This makes things a lot worse, because thousands have made the massive sacrifice not to attend funerals of their loved ones.

Boo hoo. This is what life is like for the rest of us.

 

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8 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Seriously, if you have a Tory MP, write to them. This is the best way we can keep the pressure on right now. The Prime Minister's power comes from his MPs.

I have written to mine today - once this afternoon, and again in a fit of (controlled) follow-up rage after this evening's cacophony of lies. 

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The irony in all this is the fact that if Dom's  Stay Home-Protect the NHS-Save Lives message hadn't been so effective and if people had for the most part "cheated" a bit and seen their families or friends there wouldn't be anything like the backlash he's currently getting, it's only because the vast majority stuck to the rules of the message that they feel so aggrieved. He did his job too well!

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16 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Write to them!

I can’t stand my MP, he was given this seat decades ago as a reward for long standing service to the Tories. 

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35 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Yeah, he relied on the fact that people kind of tuned out Brexit after a while, so forgot the details, but nobody is forgetting the fact that they can't see their family.

The latest is that his mum is complaining that her brother had just died (the day he arrived in Durham) and nobody seems bothered they were/are grieving. This makes things a lot worse, because thousands have made the massive sacrifice not to attend funerals of their loved ones.

Boo hoo. This is what life is like for the rest of us.

 

His uncle was in london and died a week after his 250.mile.trip. ain't gonna work

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9 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

My uncle has died due to the virus, do I now get to travel the country with impunity? 
 

Why can’t we get rid of this government. 😡

I’m really sorry to hear that .

My wife’s friend’s husband died from Covid. She had to say goodbye through a window. Their daughter is in her twenties and lives with her boyfriend so wasn’t allowed to visit her mum after her dad’s death.Our friend has only seen her daughter briefly at the funeral in all this time and is unsurprisingly in a really bad place.

I’m not trying to hijack your grief. Just sympathise that we’ve all been shafted by these dickheads and I can’t wait until they’re thrown out of office. 

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51 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Seriously, if you have a Tory MP, write to them. This is the best way we can keep the pressure on right now. The Prime Minister's power comes from his MPs.

Oliver Dowden received a lovely message from me this morning. I went to the same school he did and said he was an embarassment to the school so hopefully that means i won't get a copy and pasted answer hah.

Based on the daily fucking mail printing this story with an anti-boris/cummings view, i reckon this really could escalate. lets hope eh

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The Daily Mail thing doesn't sit well with me. Remember that talk of "hawks vs doves" in terms of the lockdown, and surprisingly Cummings and Johnson were both in favour of the measures while others wanted to open up quicker and take the deaths to save the economy? 

Well seeing the Daily Mail turn on Johnson like this, knowing how aggressively anti lockdown they've been recently (and presumably Tory donors don't care about deaths either), makes me think this is being used as an opportunity to force them out. If that happens we could get rapid reopening with no safeguards

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2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

The Daily Mail thing doesn't sit well with me. Remember that talk of "hawks vs doves" in terms of the lockdown, and surprisingly Cummings and Johnson were both in favour of the measures while others wanted to open up quicker and take the deaths to save the economy? 

Well seeing the Daily Mail turn on Johnson like this, knowing how aggressively anti lockdown they've been recently (and presumably Tory donors don't care about deaths either), makes me think this is being used as an opportunity to force them out. If that happens we could get rapid reopening with no safeguards

Who could they put in who would be worse than Cummings though?

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6 minutes ago, Dave85radiohead said:

I’m really sorry to hear that .

My wife’s friend’s husband died from Covid. She had to say goodbye through a window. Their daughter is in her twenties and lives with her boyfriend so wasn’t allowed to visit her mum after her dad’s death.Our friend has only seen her daughter briefly at the funeral in all this time and is unsurprisingly in a really bad place.

I’m not trying to hijack your grief. Just sympathise that we’ve all been shafted by these dickheads and I can’t wait until they’re thrown out of office. 

I was sent a live feed link for the funeral. This has to be the worst part of this virus. No one gets a proper chance to say goodbye. 
 

Two of my friends have lost parents to the virus and my ex lost her gran. I’ve barely left the house in over 2 months. It just takes the piss having the people making the rules flaunt them with no regards to how this is affecting the average person. 
 

I have the same opinion about all those people escaping to beaches to social distance. No wonder our country has been hit the hardest. 

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41 minutes ago, Dave85radiohead said:

Who could they put in who would be worse than Cummings though?

Someone willing to fully sack off lockdown or anything resembling it and open up quickly. In the current situation that is worse, no deal Brexit is done and dusted. He's done his worst I imagine 

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1 hour ago, Dave85radiohead said:

 I can’t wait until they’re thrown out of office. 

This is the issue. Tory voters will turn a blind eye come election time. It staggers me but I guarantee there will be some smearing of Starmer which will make people forget all about the current shitshow. Infuriates me

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On 5/16/2020 at 3:21 PM, Ayrshire Chris said:

Posted this on the webcam thread, Had a look at the Glastonbury Tor live webcam a few hours ago, beautiful blue sky and quite a few folk climbing the Tor . So jealous.

oh and can I add this as a thought when finally this shit is over?

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Trident is the multi-billion £ Elephant in the room.

What is the point of it?

Join CND here....

https://cnduk.org/

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52 minutes ago, bamber said:

Trident is the multi-billion £ Elephant in the room.

What is the point of it?

Join CND here....

https://cnduk.org/

What sort of idiot down-votes CND at a time like this? Fuck you.

UK's 'independent' trident deterrent is an utter pointless nonsense. Germany has none Japan has none. There is no coherent argument for us having one?

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