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German professor on why we can't reopen when the vulnerable are protected. Makes for tough reading.

"The moment we open the door and we get a quick infection, we have an enormous and unfortunately long-term and tough sick leave. People are not that sick after an infection. But they won't come for the next three or four months more on their feet, they are always sickly. They can always be put on sick leave. As an employer, you can only look at that and consider what to expect when you get into such a situation. It is also of no use to the employer. When everyone is allowed to go to the restaurant again and the schools are all completely open, but the workforce is constantly on sick leave, and that will come. That is practically certain. For this reason alone, those who should who think about this entire subject from an economic point of view, simply make it clear that nothing is likely to be gained for the economy, but rather that the economy will be rendered a disservice if you want to ease too quickly. "

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I think on a music festival message board it’s a legitimate question to ask. It doesn’t suggest the OP doesn’t give a shit about anything else. Of course there are much bigger things to be worrie

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Got my jab next tue ... 😀

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16 minutes ago, xxialac said:

My friend lives in a city in Latin America that had a tonne of Covid and their politicians acted quickly and made good decisions and now they haven't had a case in 6 months.

Caracas?

Yeah, it's mental isn't it. 

It is mental, the government here in the U.K. is the main reason we are seeing such a bad pandemic in this country. I’ve said it before but we have the worst possible Prime Minister at the worst possible time. 

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Frankly if shutting us off from the world for a time gets us to a place where I no longer have to worry if my kids can go to school or stay over their grandparents whilst we go out for drinks with our friends then I’m all for it.

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11 minutes ago, xxialac said:

It looks as if the UK is going to be shut off from the rest of the world in coming months.

With the EU relatively open, it will look more and more like a metaphor for Brexit.

we might become a vaccinated covid free island paradise...?

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Just now, st dan said:

The thought of International travel in a global pandemic (with the exception of returning nationals) is utterly absurd anyway. 

What about e.g. families who live in different countries?

A parent who leaves a poorer country for a better paid job to provide for their family? 

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1 minute ago, xxialac said:

What about e.g. families who live in different countries?

A parent who leaves a poorer country for a better paid job to provide for their family? 

yeah...well...it's rough. There are a lot of people here who have family in other countries...my missus for example who has an elderly mum and other family all in Japan...she wants to get over there but can't. But, feels like govt might want to try and get cases down as low as possible, and avoid these other variants coming in...which means tighter restrictions on the borders,,,similar to what they have done in east asia and oz/nz. The only problem is, how long does it last? because unless tackled globally it's always going to be out there.

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2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

we might become a vaccinated covid free island paradise...?

I have little doubt we will lose our nerve at introducing the critical 'controlled quarantine' plan that's needed to truly make that work. And too many infected hauliers will come having got through the ropey quick testing.

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I’m fine with zero covid and shutting off to the world as long as we rapidly invest in getting vaccines out to other countries once we are done here. Don’t want to be holidaying in Cornwall every summer for the next decade. 

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Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

I’m fine with zero covid and shutting off to the world as long as we rapidly invest in getting vaccines out to other countries once we are done here. Don’t want to be holidaying in Cornwall every summer for the next decade. 

We've just dropped our pledge on percentage of international aid, which tells you all you need to know about the government's vision for supporting the wider world.

MUKGA hats incoming...

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4 minutes ago, xxialac said:

We've just dropped our pledge on percentage of international aid, which tells you all you need to know about the government's vision for supporting the wider world.

MUKGA hats incoming...

There’s a slight difference between altruistic foreign aid and ploughing money into vaccines that get travel up and going in order to benefit our own citizens. I’m talking about Spain and Greece, not third world countries. 

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5 minutes ago, xxialac said:

We've just dropped our pledge on percentage of international aid, which tells you all you need to know about the government's vision for supporting the wider world.

MUKGA hats incoming...

but it actually in our interest to sort this out globally...hopefully leaders in of the wealthier countries understand this..

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15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

The Germans are VERY angry at their govt over what they are seeing with the slow vaccine rollout. Good luck with getting them to hard lockdown and not to go on holiday.

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1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

There’s a slight difference between altruistic foreign aid and ploughing money into vaccines that get travel up and going in order to benefit our own citizens. I’m talking about Spain and Greece, not third world countries. 

We're going to use UK budget to spend on supporting Spain and Greece? ('rapidly invest')??

 

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Just now, steviewevie said:

but it actually in our interest to sort this out globally...hopefully leaders in of the wealthier countries understand this..

The US has joined Corvax under Biden and UK is with it as well. I'm sure they do understand this

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12 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

The new James Bond film has been pushed back to October. 

So way over a year after it was meant to be released? Surely at this point they should just do what Disney did and put it up for online purchase and sell it to a streaming service?

Or are they THAT worried about the loss this film is going to make.

Imagine after all these delays it gets poor reviews lol. What was the point. Surely it costs a lot in marketing to keep delaying.

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