When will this shit end?

[stuartbert two hats]

I fucking hate the Tories and their research groups.

[zahidf]

 

[efcfanwirral]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

 

But we're not looking to stop everyone getting it (apparently) just stop the deaths and strain on the health system. 

I still believe we'll all end up having it eventually (with restrictions if we refuse) as there is money to be made, but at the moment the tentative plan seems to not be that way

[eFestivals]

8 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Are lockdown-scepticism and Euroscepticism linked?

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/are-lockdown-scepticism-and-euroscepticism-linked/

nah, there's just one banner that links these people: stupidity.

[zahidf]

Students in England will be given a six-day window next month in which to travel home before Christmas, with mass testing carried out on campus before they are allowed to leave.

A mass exodus will take place on staggered departure dates set by universities from 3 December to 9 December after England’s four-week lockdown, under plans announced by the Department for Education (DfE)on Tuesday night. Students testing positive would need to remain in self-isolation for 10 days.

In a major shift, the government said it would also instruct universities to then move learning online by 9 December so that students can have the option of returning home to study from there. It is not known what the plan is for after the Christmas period though a DfE spokesperson said details would be published “in due course”.

 

Sounds like keeping students at home, which will be much better to have remote learning and keep the R down

[zahidf]

Mass testing the way forward?

 

Slovakia Says COVID Double-Testing Cut Number of Infections by More Than Half
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-11-09/slovakia-says-covid-double-testing-cut-number-of-infections-by-more-than-half
Slovakia's coronavirus testing and quarantine scheme, running over the past two weekends, has helped cut the proportion of infections by more than half, Prime Minister Igor Matovic said on Monday.

The country of 5.5 million tested 3.6 million people, excluding small children and some senior citizens, over the first weekend in November, with those testing positive having to go into quarantine.

It repeated tests for just over 2 million over this past weekend when testing took place only in more affected areas, with the infection rate turning out to be much lower thanks to the earlier quarantine orders.
 

[steviewevie]

Hit the North.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54892161

[Reckoner]

5 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Mass testing the way forward?

 

Slovakia Says COVID Double-Testing Cut Number of Infections by More Than Half
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-11-09/slovakia-says-covid-double-testing-cut-number-of-infections-by-more-than-half
Slovakia's coronavirus testing and quarantine scheme, running over the past two weekends, has helped cut the proportion of infections by more than half, Prime Minister Igor Matovic said on Monday.

The country of 5.5 million tested 3.6 million people, excluding small children and some senior citizens, over the first weekend in November, with those testing positive having to go into quarantine.

It repeated tests for just over 2 million over this past weekend when testing took place only in more affected areas, with the infection rate turning out to be much lower thanks to the earlier quarantine orders.
 

It's been the way forward since March

[Ozanne]

15 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Mass testing the way forward?

 

Slovakia Says COVID Double-Testing Cut Number of Infections by More Than Half
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-11-09/slovakia-says-covid-double-testing-cut-number-of-infections-by-more-than-half
Slovakia's coronavirus testing and quarantine scheme, running over the past two weekends, has helped cut the proportion of infections by more than half, Prime Minister Igor Matovic said on Monday.

The country of 5.5 million tested 3.6 million people, excluding small children and some senior citizens, over the first weekend in November, with those testing positive having to go into quarantine.

It repeated tests for just over 2 million over this past weekend when testing took place only in more affected areas, with the infection rate turning out to be much lower thanks to the earlier quarantine orders.
 

People have been saying this since near the beginning, our government have just been woefully bad at listening. Good to see it can be done, several countries have managed it via this route.

[Zoo Music Girl]

17 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Students in England will be given a six-day window next month in which to travel home before Christmas, with mass testing carried out on campus before they are allowed to leave.

A mass exodus will take place on staggered departure dates set by universities from 3 December to 9 December after England’s four-week lockdown, under plans announced by the Department for Education (DfE)on Tuesday night. Students testing positive would need to remain in self-isolation for 10 days.

In a major shift, the government said it would also instruct universities to then move learning online by 9 December so that students can have the option of returning home to study from there. It is not known what the plan is for after the Christmas period though a DfE spokesperson said details would be published “in due course”.

 

Sounds like keeping students at home, which will be much better to have remote learning and keep the R down

Surely the students will just leave whenever they want once lockdown is over? If they've been under lockdown then the risk should be very low anyway, even better if they are offered tests.

Our next door neighbour's student daughter came back last week anyway. Must have decided she'd had enough. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

Just now, Zoo Music Girl said:

Surely the students will just leave whenever they want once lockdown is over? If they've been under lockdown then the risk should be very low anyway, even better if they are offered tests.

Our next door neighbour's student daughter came back last week anyway. Must have decided she'd had enough. 

Actually if I was offered a free coach home (presuming it would be free) I'd have gladly taken it.

[squirrelarmy]

15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Hit the North.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54892161

No surprise that’s it’s hit the north worse than the south. 
 

Who else thinks that the south is going to get the vaccine roll out first?

[JoeyT]

 of course it is Russia. Love how they are playing the "my dad's bigger than yours" card.

 

[squirrelarmy]

3 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

of course it is Russia. Love how they are playing the "my dad's bigger than yours" card.

Sputnik V? Does this mean there’s a chance the vaccine could send your head into orbit?

[Ozanne]

23 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Sputnik V? Does this mean there’s a chance the vaccine could send your head into orbit?

Take your head out of clouds mate.

[rascalpete]

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned here but sky reporting Van Tam starting a new weekly briefing with no politicians starting today at 10am apparently. Will be joined by head of MHRA today.

[Ozanne]

1 minute ago, rascalpete said:

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned here but sky reporting Van Tam starting a new weekly briefing with no politicians starting today at 10am apparently. Will be joined by head of MHRA today.

Nice, thanks mate!

[zahidf]

 

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

I agree that sending nappies to the wife isn't on, but way to go for her with that lack of self-awareness.  

[steviewevie]

If this vaccine is less effective with old people...what then?

[Ozanne]

I really love JVT. His way of answering questions is brilliant. 

[DeanoL]

16 hours ago, crazyfool1 said:

we kept having it stressed by the local news that our cases were low ... if that lead to complacency im not sure .... probably were always going to rise anyway 

There were people reading this thread, so pretty switched on people, that felt that a national lockdown shouldn't happen because numbers were much lower in some places than others. Getting across the idea that, if the numbers are going up, they will keep going up unless we do something, regardless of how much or how little they're going up by seems to have been a real stumbling block in communications. It should only be if numbers are going down that we decide we can safely do nothing.

[Euphoricape]

Just seen this, dont know if this has been mentioned but:

 

[WestCountryGirl]

24 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

That we use the turd emoji to refer to Mercer on our family Whatsapp now feels more apt than ever. My aunt has been blocked from his social media for years (he's her MP, regretably) because she would ask him questions. 

[zahidf]

28 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

I agree that sending nappies to the wife isn't on, but way to go for her with that lack of self-awareness.  

Ha! from the sounds of it, thats Mercer resigning from the govt....