When will this shit end?

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, Chapple12345 said:

Bold of them to assume there will be any cinemas left by October 2021

It's not like anyone will have any money to redevelop the sites.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said:

Bold of them to assume there will be any cinemas left by October 2021

or anyone left to watch it.

[Matt42]

13 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

not enough of them.

surely.

110 million people in the US don’t vote. A lot of them because of fake news media beliefs etc.

Trumps base think they can win by speaking to these lot. They don’t seem to be interested in winning over democrats.

[Matt42]

Trump apparently attending the next debate on the 15 Oct. also planning to hold a rally

[Ozanne]

 

So which one is, he's either more ill than letting on and putting many at danger or he never had it at all.

[Ozanne]

2 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

110 million people in the US don’t vote. A lot of them because of fake news media beliefs etc.

Trumps base think they can win by speaking to these lot. They don’t seem to be interested in winning over democrats.

Do you have any evidence to back this up?

[stuartbert two hats]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

So which one is, he's either more ill than letting on and putting many at danger or he never had it at all.

Judging by that timeline, he could be dead by the time of the next debate.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Judging by that timeline, he could be dead by the time of the next debate.

he might die during the debate. That would be pretty cool.

[Ozanne]

 

It doesn't look like this has boosted Trump in the polls at least from Arizona anyway, staunch Republican voting Arizona.

[Ozanne]

Just now, steviewevie said:

he might die during the debate. That would be pretty cool.

At least Biden could get an answer in that way.

 

*I feel bad for that one.

[SheffJeff]

Just now, steviewevie said:

he might die during the debate. That would be pretty cool.

After the last shitshow of a debate I vowed I wouldnt stay up for the next one... now I might.

[Matt42]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Do you have any evidence to back this up?

America is one of the worst countries in the world for voter turnout. I’ve spoken and known enough Americans to have a rough idea why. Many feel like it’s all entertainment and politicians do nothing for them.

Trump is successful because he appeals to a lot of these people. It’s a protest vote against orthodox politics.

[Ozanne]

2 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

America is one of the worst countries in the world for voter turnout. I’ve spoken and known enough Americans to have a rough idea why. Many feel like it’s all entertainment and politicians do nothing for them.

Trump is successful because he appeals to a lot of these people. It’s a protest vote against orthodox politics.

So just anecdotal evidence then. There's plenty of information out there showing this isn't working for Trump.

Edited October 5, 2020 by Ozanne

[zahidf]

14 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Trump apparently attending the next debate on the 15 Oct. also planning to hold a rally

Oooh which one will he collapse and die from?

[squirrelarmy]

5 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Many feel like it’s all entertainment and politicians do nothing for them.

What do you expect when actors have become presidents and governors and celebrities are always getting linked to running for president. 
 

The whole thing is a joke. 

[Matt42]

Just now, Ozanne said:

So just anecdotal evidence then. There's plenty of information out there showing this isn't working for Trump.

I think anecdotal evidence is all you can really believe when it comes to elections. You have to read the mood of the entire nation, not just the people who are voting for the same team as you.

I will never ever trust polls after conservative victory, brexit, trump and conservative victory again all in succession. I’ve seen enough evidence now of polls being wrong - because of the simple fact that a lot of people don’t take part in polls / they ask people more likely to tip a certain way / and people often don’t want to disclose who they voted for.

This election isn’t over until it’s over, and I’ve vowed myself to never underestimate the power of the opposition.

[zahidf]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

So just anecdotal evidence then. There's plenty of information out there showing this isn't working for Trump.

All Matt has when it comes to trump is a gut feeling and andectototes

 

Which is fair enough. It could be right. I have my doubt.

[zahidf]

Just now, Matt42 said:

I think anecdotal evidence is all you can really believe when it comes to elections. You have to read the mood of the entire nation, not just the people who are voting for the same team as you.

I will never ever trust polls after conservative victory, brexit, trump and conservative victory again all in succession. I’ve seen enough evidence now of polls being wrong - because of the simple fact that a lot of people don’t take part in polls / they ask people more likely to tip a certain way / and people often don’t want to disclose who they voted for.

This election isn’t over until it’s over, and I’ve vowed myself to never underestimate the power of the opposition.

Um the polls were right in 2019.

[zahidf]

@Toilet Duck sounds like a cluster Fcuk in Ireland...

[Matt42]

Just now, squirrelarmy said:

What do you expect when actors have become presidents and governors and celebrities are always getting linked to running for president. 
 

The whole thing is a joke. 

As I’ve said. It’s a protest vote. Many people don’t feel the government represents them so they want to elect someone who will go in and burn it down.

My American family voted for the first time in 2016. All of them voted trump. Not because they liked him at all but because he was the most likely to go in there and mess up any system the political class had built in the past.

I don’t agree with them and I want to cut my ears off debating with them sometimes but I think it’s hard for Brits to understand that many Americans want trump in specifically because he’s a circus and the whole thing will be a car crash.

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

America is one of the worst countries in the world for voter turnout. I’ve spoken and known enough Americans to have a rough idea why. Many feel like it’s all entertainment and politicians do nothing for them.

Trump is successful because he appeals to a lot of these people. It’s a protest vote against orthodox politics.

I work for a US company and have been over there a few times, and I also have family over there....and I am yet to meet anyone who supports Trump.

[Matt42]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Um the polls were right in 2019.

Whilst the 2019 polls were correct that it was a conservative victory they all severely underestimated how bad labour would do

[zahidf]

Just now, Matt42 said:

Whilst the 2019 polls were correct that it was a conservative victory they all severely underestimated how bad labour would do

Not... really. Was about in line within 2%

[zahidf]

A humbling Herman Cain/coronavirus timeline:

 

6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless

7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19

7/10: Says he’s improving

7/15: Says his doctors seem happy

7/27: Says he’s really getting better

7/30: Dies

 

Sounds familiar?

Edited October 5, 2020 by zahidf

[Matt42]

Just now, steviewevie said:

I work for a US company and have been over there a few times, and I also have family over there....and I am yet to meet anyone who supports Trump.

Where in America though? Genuinely.

My family are in Florida and Georgia