When will this shit end?

[zahidf]

Ok best comment 

 

[jparx]

There will obviously be a spike of Covid infections in the Winter, as there is for other diseases, but with all adults double jabbed and boosters offered to the vulnerable, why on earth would we need extra measures than usual? The only long term changes we need from this is to move away from presenteeism and for it to be more acceptable to WFH if you have cold/flu, and maybe encourage masks on public transport if you have symptoms. The kind of stuff we probably should have been doing to help combat spread of flu/colds in the first place.

Unless there's a new variant (and even then, massively depends on the characteristics of it) we definitely shouldn't be slipping back to social distancing in the Winter.

Edited June 16, 2021 by jparx

[steviewevie]

kid's year 11 prom cancelled 😞

[jimmillen]

39 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

What's the point of the 15 minutes bit? Either you're in an enclosed space breathing or not surely?

If you imagine every time someone with the virus breathes out, that outbreath carries a certain amount of virus. The more time they’re doing it, the more virus builds up in any shared space. 

Then the longer you’re in that space, the more of that air you’re breathing in, so the greater the viral load you’re exposed to. 

I guess the 15 minute recommendation has some science behind it as a sort of threshold. 

Frankly though 30 seconds on a crowded tube carriage is probably more than enough! 😳

[Copperface]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

UK excluded.

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2021/jun/16/uk-excluded-from-eus-covid-safe-travel-list

Are we on some sort of list of international pariahs now?

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Copperface said:

Are we on some sort of list of international pariahs now?

We are the Millwall FC of the world.

[zahidf]

15 minutes ago, jparx said:

There will obviously be a spike of Covid infections in the Winter, as there is for other diseases, but with all adults double jabbed and boosters offered to the vulnerable, why on earth would we need extra measures than usual? The only long term changes we need from this is to move away from presenteeism and for it to be more acceptable to WFH if you have cold/flu, and maybe encourage masks on public transport if you have symptoms. The kind of stuff we probably should have been doing to help combat spread of flu/colds in the first place.

Unless there's a new variant (and even then, massively depends on the characteristics of it) we definitely shouldn't be slipping back to social distancing in the Winter.

Sounds like some of the zero covid nutters trying to get some of their ideas into the mainstream

[steviewevie]

19 minutes ago, jparx said:

There will obviously be a spike of Covid infections in the Winter, as there is for other diseases, but with all adults double jabbed and boosters offered to the vulnerable, why on earth would we need extra measures than usual? The only long term changes we need from this is to move away from presenteeism and for it to be more acceptable to WFH if you have cold/flu, and maybe encourage masks on public transport if you have symptoms. The kind of stuff we probably should have been doing to help combat spread of flu/colds in the first place.

Unless there's a new variant (and even then, massively depends on the characteristics of it) we definitely shouldn't be slipping back to social distancing in the Winter.

I think it's a case of let's see how it goes....

[zahidf]

 

[Copperface]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

We are the Millwall FC of the world.

Just sitting here chuckling to myself at what people were saying last year. 

[BobWillis2]

9 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

Eventually 

[zahidf]

Hancock says MPs should return to sitting in chamber without social distancing from September

Hancock tells MPs that, although they will be voting tonight to extend the arrangements for virtual participation in Commons debates until 22 July, after the summer recess the Commons will return to normal. He says he can’t wait to have MPs back in the chamber “cheek by jowl”.

[zahidf]

Hancock confirms that vaccination to be compulsory for care home workers

Hancock confirms that the government is going to make vaccination a condition of employment for people in care homes. And he says it will consult on introducing this rule for NHS staff.

[Copperface]

What they haven't addressed re compulsory vaccination of care workers as far as I can see, is domiciliary care workers. A massive segment of the sector and as great a risk to their clients. They just referred to workers in care homes for the elderly. Quite an omission.

[MEGABOWL]

1 hour ago, JoeyT said:

Hopefully we are only a week or so away from cases dropping across the UK if Scotland is anything to go by…

 

That feels quite promising as it’s despite Glasgow dropping a level on June 5 which allowed pubs to serve booze again. 

[zahidf]

Just now, Copperface said:

What they haven't addressed re compulsory vaccination of care workers as far as I can see, is domiciliary care workers. A massive segment of the sector and as great a risk to their clients. They just referred to workers in care homes for the elderly. Quite an omission.

Except he has 

 

[zahidf]

BREAKING

 

[Copperface]

Just now, zahidf said:

Except he has 

 

Good. Wasn't clear initially.

[JB15]

50 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Ok best comment 

 

If that is the case, we need to (as per previous comments from me) tax more and expand our health service to cope and be normal throughout the whole year 

[steviewevie]

I think someone posted about Blackburn case numbers peaking yesterday...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/16/covid-cases-have-peaked-in-blackburn-official-figures-show

[steviewevie]

 

[fraybentos1]

This panic all something over nothing then 👀 

nah too soon to say probs but things are hardly looking catastrophic. If cases rising is starting to slow down / plateau then hospitals will be grand.

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

 

Well you can turn the location of your phone now cant you on the app? any reasons to keep it on after being double jabbed?

[zahidf]

9k cases today, up 20% on last week after a full week of c. 7.6k

Absolutely no sign of the 60% exponential death loop we were promised Monday night.

 

Cancelling next weeks freedom day looks like a BIG mistake

Edited June 16, 2021 by zahidf

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Well you can turn the location of your phone now cant you on the app? any reasons to keep it on after being double jabbed?

because it's naughty?