When will this shit end?

[Copperface]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

It’s right that the ban in evictions is extended, it should save numerous amounts of businesses from going under. 

 

Great in this case but people still fall for the 'But the Government promised' line.....

It was initially extended until 31 December and then on 9 December the Government announced a “final extension to protections from the threat of eviction” by extending the restriction until 31 March 2021.

Now extended to 2022.

 

[Ozanne]

1 minute ago, Copperface said:

 

Great in this case but people still fall for the 'But the Government promised' line.....

It was initially extended until 31 December and then on 9 December the Government announced a “final extension to protections from the threat of eviction” by extending the restriction until 31 March 2021.

Now extended to 2022.

 

It might cause some to worry that we’ll see restrictions through till then as well but I think it’s more to supplement any recovery and it’s in place just in case. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

58 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

Not a HUGE deal, IMO (though revising the AZ decision in the younger groups would be a welcome move). The target of all adults getting a first dose by 19th July and 2/3 getting a second dose is incredibly realistic even with a slowdown in the rates. Also this will have been baked in to the four week delay (and probably why it’s been designed as four with a two week break clause rather than two with the option of extending, IMO) 

[Fuzzy Afro]

New variant just dropped. This time, it’s in Russia. 

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

Not a HUGE deal, IMO (though revising the AZ decision in the younger groups would be a welcome move). The target of all adults getting a first dose by 19th July and 2/3 getting a second dose is incredibly realistic even with a slowdown in the rates. Also this will have been baked in to the four week delay (and probably why it’s been designed as four with a two week break clause rather than two with the option of extending, IMO) 

The faster we can jab though, the more lives are saved, it's not just about being to reopen.

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

New variant just dropped. This time, it’s in Russia. 

Source?

[jimmillen]

30 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Source?

Was news to me too, I found this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9688969/Russia-claims-spotted-type-Covid.html

 

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, jimmillen said:

Was news to me too, I found this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9688969/Russia-claims-spotted-type-Covid.html

 

Thanks, but I'll wait for a proper news organisation to pick it up. 

[jimmillen]

8 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Thanks, but I'll wait for a proper news organisation to pick it up. 

Hah! 😂 Looks like there’s something on the NY Times as well but paywalled, so unclear if it says much about this possible Russia variant. 

Regardless, it’s inevitable that variants will keep cropping up around the world until the global vaccine programme ramps up. In the meantime we’d better hope the government have learnt their lessons about border control and quarantine. 

 

[zahidf]

 

[kalifire]

59 minutes ago, jimmillen said:

Hah! 😂 Looks like there’s something on the NY Times as well but paywalled, so unclear if it says much about this possible Russia variant. 

From the NYT:

“MOSCOW — Russian officials scrambled on Saturday to slow the spread of a new wave of the coronavirus, ordering workers in Moscow to take next week off and pleading with the populace to make use of widely available vaccines.

The biggest spike appeared to be in Moscow, the Russian capital, which reported 6,701 new cases on Saturday — more than double the rise five days ago, and the highest single-day total since December. Mayor Sergey S. Sobyanin said the situation had “sharply worsened” in the past week, and that thousands of hospital beds were being repurposed to provide care for Covid-19 patients.

“According to epidemiologists, it is now necessary to at least slow down the speed of, if not stop, the spread of the virus,” Mr. Sobyanin said on his blog.

Bars and restaurants will be required to stop serving customers at 11 p.m., food courts in shopping malls will be closed, and public playgrounds and athletic grounds will be closed, Mr. Sobyanin said. Most employers will be required to keep workers home — with pay — next week. However, Mr. Sobyanin did not impose new restrictions on indoor dining beyond the 11 p.m. cutoff, reflecting the Kremlin’s prioritization of the economy in its policies during the pandemic.

Overall, Russia reported 13,510 new cases on Saturday, the highest number since February and a 50 percent rise from a week earlier. Just as worrying to epidemiologists is that Russia’s vaccination campaign appears to be stalling. President Vladimir V. Putin said on Saturday that 18 million people had been vaccinated in the country, which is less than 13 percent of the population, even though Russia’s Sputnik V shots have been widely available for months.

“Right now, we can vaccinate everyone in Russia given the volume of vaccine being produced,” Mr. Putin said at an annual state awards ceremony at the Kremlin on Saturday, according to Interfax. “The question is that, as always — it’s a typical phenomenon here — people are cautious about all such procedures.”

The two-dose Sputnik V vaccine is 91.6 percent effective against the coronavirus, according to peer-reviewed research published in The Lancet in January. But polls show that nearly two-thirds of Russians say they do not plan to get the vaccine. Analysts attribute Russians’ hesitancy to a seemingly contradictory mix of factors: widespread distrust of the authorities on the one hand, and frequent state television reports describing the coronavirus as mostly defeated or not very dangerous on the other.

Russian officials frequently claim that the country has handled the coronavirus better than the West. There have been no large-scale lockdowns in the country since last summer. The official death toll stands at 126,073, but the unusually high number of deaths in the past year suggests that the real toll is several times higher.

Now, with Western countries emerging from lockdowns, Russia runs the risk of entering a vicious new wave of the virus. And officials are starting to acknowledge that the pandemic will not end in the country anytime soon unless the vaccination rate accelerates drastically.

“Until we have truly mass vaccination, the city will constantly be getting sick,” Mr. Sobyanin said on Saturday.“

[eFestivals]

 

[Reckoner]

9 hours ago, incident said:

He really does like being selective with his data, doesn't he?

Plot that against November and/or January waves, and then he may (or most likely won't) have a point.

June 2nd albeit it only goes back till January. 

Bit unfair to accuse someone of being selective with data when you’ve turned up 2 weeks late to the conversation. 
 

 

[Ozanne]

Another life-saving Covid treatment found https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57488150

[mcshed]

10 hours ago, incident said:

Yep, thought so:

Same logic - 5% of cases, hospitalisations on a 10 day delay. Rather than tracking around ~5% in November/January, it was usually ~10% and a few times went >15%

If 5% of cases produce hospitalisations and cases are doubling every couple of weeks, then hospitalisations will double every couple of weeks which left unchecked will become an issue. Exponential's going to get you.

If we have 6000 cases a day and cases are doubling every 2 weeks then the difference between 10% and 5% is just two weeks.

6000 cases 600 hospitalisations without vaccine 300 hospitalisations with vaccine

2 weeks later

12000 cases 1200 or 600 hospitalisations

24000 cases 2400 or 1200

48000 cases 4800 or 2400

So if 10% is enough to overwhelm the NHS then 5% will do so two weeks later.

 

 

 

[zahidf]

Us on July 20th. Fingers crossed...

 

[Chapple12345]

21 and 22 year olds can now book their vaccines, absolutely flying through them now 🙂

[jimmillen]

6 hours ago, kalifire said:

From the NYT:

“MOSCOW — Russian officials scrambled on Saturday to slow the spread of a new wave of the coronavirus, ordering workers in Moscow to take next week off and pleading with the populace to make use of widely available vaccines.

The biggest spike appeared to be in Moscow, the Russian capital, which reported 6,701 new cases on Saturday — more than double the rise five days ago, and the highest single-day total since December. Mayor Sergey S. Sobyanin said the situation had “sharply worsened” in the past week, and that thousands of hospital beds were being repurposed to provide care for Covid-19 patients.

“According to epidemiologists, it is now necessary to at least slow down the speed of, if not stop, the spread of the virus,” Mr. Sobyanin said on his blog.

Bars and restaurants will be required to stop serving customers at 11 p.m., food courts in shopping malls will be closed, and public playgrounds and athletic grounds will be closed, Mr. Sobyanin said. Most employers will be required to keep workers home — with pay — next week. However, Mr. Sobyanin did not impose new restrictions on indoor dining beyond the 11 p.m. cutoff, reflecting the Kremlin’s prioritization of the economy in its policies during the pandemic.

Overall, Russia reported 13,510 new cases on Saturday, the highest number since February and a 50 percent rise from a week earlier. Just as worrying to epidemiologists is that Russia’s vaccination campaign appears to be stalling. President Vladimir V. Putin said on Saturday that 18 million people had been vaccinated in the country, which is less than 13 percent of the population, even though Russia’s Sputnik V shots have been widely available for months.

“Right now, we can vaccinate everyone in Russia given the volume of vaccine being produced,” Mr. Putin said at an annual state awards ceremony at the Kremlin on Saturday, according to Interfax. “The question is that, as always — it’s a typical phenomenon here — people are cautious about all such procedures.”

The two-dose Sputnik V vaccine is 91.6 percent effective against the coronavirus, according to peer-reviewed research published in The Lancet in January. But polls show that nearly two-thirds of Russians say they do not plan to get the vaccine. Analysts attribute Russians’ hesitancy to a seemingly contradictory mix of factors: widespread distrust of the authorities on the one hand, and frequent state television reports describing the coronavirus as mostly defeated or not very dangerous on the other.

Russian officials frequently claim that the country has handled the coronavirus better than the West. There have been no large-scale lockdowns in the country since last summer. The official death toll stands at 126,073, but the unusually high number of deaths in the past year suggests that the real toll is several times higher.

Now, with Western countries emerging from lockdowns, Russia runs the risk of entering a vicious new wave of the virus. And officials are starting to acknowledge that the pandemic will not end in the country anytime soon unless the vaccination rate accelerates drastically.

“Until we have truly mass vaccination, the city will constantly be getting sick,” Mr. Sobyanin said on Saturday.“

Thanks! So, no specific details on any new variant then. Hmmm…

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, jimmillen said:

Thanks! So, no specific details on any new variant then. Hmmm…

yeah, could be delta variant...

[steviewevie]

32 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Us on July 20th. Fingers crossed...

 

our kids took their masks off ages ago...get with it Israel.

[zahidf]

https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/london-playbook/politico-london-playbook-living-with-corona-work-from-home-long-term-perspex-screens-scrapped/

[Avalon_Fields]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/london-playbook/politico-london-playbook-living-with-corona-work-from-home-long-term-perspex-screens-scrapped/

Thank you for posting.

One of the observations listed is the ineffectiveness of Perspex screens, in fact they may worsen the situation by reducing airflow. It always seemed to me to be doubtful they do much.

 

[zahidf]

Just now, Avalon_Fields said:

Thank you for posting.

One of the observations listed is the ineffectiveness of Perspex screens, in fact they may worsen the situation by reducing airflow. It always seemed to me to be doubtful they do much.

 

Yeah I reckon that'll be one to go for sure

[steviewevie]

The live with covid thing...ventilation etc, how they going to do all that with indoor venues for nightclubs and gigs etc? A lot of those places wouldn't be able to have very good ventilation I imagine. Or is the thinking it will be tests and/or proof of vaccine.

[Ozanne]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

The live with covid thing...ventilation etc, how they going to do all that with indoor venues for nightclubs and gigs etc? A lot of those places wouldn't be able to have very good ventilation I imagine. Or is the thinking it will be tests and/or proof of vaccine.

Yeah I think they’ll go that route with certification essentially.

It’s interesting that they are considering WFH remaining after July 19th.