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1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

A lot of people here probably thought just like that at the start of January and we are now fortunately in a position to be nearing the other side of that. We should be able to show some sympathy for the French and what they are about to go through, they are still people after all and this will be difficult for them. I'm not saying you aren't feeling sympathy for them by the way just sort of adding some thoughts to your post.

We are on a Glastonbury forum and the first post in response to there French entering another lockdown is essentially 'serves them right', what about the spirit of the festival where we try to care for one another?

I feel sorry for your average French Tom, Dick and Harries. 

 

The French government however I have zero sympathy for. They've fucked it up and someone in a very high position needs to be losing their job over this mess.

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26 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I feel sorry for your average French Tom, Dick and Harries. 

 

The French government however I have zero sympathy for. They've fucked it up and someone in a very high position needs to be losing their job over this mess.

Nobody's going to lose their job for our mess in January so no guarantees there! 

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1 hour ago, Leyrulion said:

The data supported an opening up on Monday, so it happened. See if the data from that continues to support opening up further.

Data not dates etc...

With this in mind how do you explain the 2 week gap between 29th March - outdoor socialising and then the outdoor hospitality, shops & gyms that open on April 12th?

If a gap is so important as you’re clearly suggesting why is this one so small yet the data apparently needs 5 weeks to tell us what we can or can’t do?

April 12ths stuff should have happened this Monday. I don’t see the logic in waiting with the reasons I assume you’re alluding to?

Are there any metrics which aren’t decreasing rapidly that I’ve missed?

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46 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

I'd be amazed if there wasn't political pressure (from within Spain, Greece and Turkey) to open up tourism (with caveats) to UK holiday makers by the end of June. The Balearic Islands alone really struggled with one majorly disrupted season in 2020. Another one this year could really change the landscape over there. I'm thinking they'll move heaven and earth to allow vaccinated/negative tested punters in 

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47 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

I'd be amazed if there wasn't political pressure (from within Spain, Greece and Turkey) to open up tourism (with caveats) to UK holiday makers by the end of June. The Balearic Islands alone really struggled with one majorly disrupted season in 2020. Another one this year could really change the landscape over there. I'm thinking they'll move heaven and earth to allow vaccinated/negative tested punters in 

Yep. It’ll happen one way or another I’m sure. 

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6 hours ago, JoeyT said:

With this in mind how do you explain the 2 week gap between 29th March - outdoor socialising and then the outdoor hospitality, shops & gyms that open on April 12th?

If a gap is so important as you’re clearly suggesting why is this one so small yet the data apparently needs 5 weeks to tell us what we can or can’t do?

April 12ths stuff should have happened this Monday. I don’t see the logic in waiting with the reasons I assume you’re alluding to?

Are there any metrics which aren’t decreasing rapidly that I’ve missed?

Surely this is more logistical than scientific. It allows business to order food/drinks/stock, get staff in place, test equipment etc and prepare for re-opening with certainty on the start date now that it seem pretty clear that the first hurdle of schools has been cleared with things still under control. Linking it to 29/3 would have meant the possibility of delaying or cancelling the re-opening if the data had turned bad from schools and why would a business waste money ordering things without knowing what the future held.  The first hurdle is cleared, the road map course holds true and now business can plan properly for reopening.

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7 hours ago, stuie said:

I wish I could find this where I live 👍

 

They just said on the news that a hub in Walthamstow did 3,000 yesterday as they had a significant surplus of vaccines. The council and local MP tweeted people in certain groups to walk in and there were huge queues.

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18 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

When they do this is it only people on the priority groups who can turn up or is it any age ?

That's a lot of "spares"...  something isn't quite right if they have that many spares.

Couple of things:

 

1) People in the “priority groups” have been offered a vaccine appointment already. These spares are specifically going to younger, healthier people.

 

2) In terms of why they have spares, there are three main reasons. The first is that some people cancel their appointment at short notice or don’t turn up at all, either because they’ve decided against the vaccine for some reason or simply because life got in the way. These appointments cannot be replaced so the vaccine would otherwise go to waste.

 

The second reason is because the glass vials that contain the vaccines are technically supposed to hold five doses, but there is often enough liquid to squeeze a sixth one out. This sixth dose cannot be accounted for when booking the appointments but you can often squeeze an extra one out and put it in an arm.

 

The final, and most important reason, is that the appointment boomers are told to assume that 5% of the doses will be spoiled. For this reason they only book appointments to cover 95% of the supply. In reality the wastage rate is more like 1% but they need to underbook it to avoid disappointment. This means that roughly 4% of the supply is usable but not booked. 

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Can only speak for the centre I work at, but at most they only jab up to 10 people with leftovers at the end of the day. It's only after everyone who has an appointment turns up who is going to (some can be hours late or just don't arrive) and then it's a case of if they open a vial for one appointment turning up then that vial still has vaccine in it that can't then be kept til the next day. So that vaccine needs using and they give it first to any volunteers or staff that haven't had one and then to people waiting outside (as I said, one guy had been there eight hours yesterday).

No idea what happened with things like the Walthamstow centre. Was the vaccine getting close to expiry date or something? Maybe they were shutting that centre down and easier to use than transport?

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7 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Starmer has come out against vaccine passports.  So I wonder what his plan is to reopen pubs without distancing.

Given that all over 50’s have been offered a vaccine (or will be imminently) I don’t see why you need distancing. If the older anti vaxxers get hospitalised its their own bloody fault and no one cares if a 30 year old catches the mild lurgy for a few days 

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12 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Given that all over 50’s have been offered a vaccine (or will be imminently) I don’t see why you need distancing. If the older anti vaxxers get hospitalised its their own bloody fault and no one cares if a 30 year old catches the mild lurgy for a few days 

But... VaRIenTs 🙃

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Due to the slowdown in vaccinations I now predict that...

 

- All over 50's will be offered a vaccine imminently (The vast, vast majority already have)

 

- Over 40's will be offered a vaccine by the second half of April

 

- Over 30's will be offered one by the end of June 

 

- All UK adults will be offered one by mid July

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1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Due to the slowdown in vaccinations I now predict that...

 

- All over 50's will be offered a vaccine imminently (The vast, vast majority already have)

 

- Over 40's will be offered a vaccine by the second half of April

 

- Over 30's will be offered one by the end of June 

 

- All UK adults will be offered one by mid July

Helpful, thanks. 

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On 3/26/2021 at 12:23 PM, aj6658 said:

Yeah that was me who was keen to go. Well that sucks but probs for the best.

The Head of Munich Ambulance Service Peter Aicher now advises the Oktoberfest to vaccinate on the ground.

"My suggestion would be a Vaccination Tent on the Theresienwiese as it is designed for large masses, easy to

reach and vaccination could be done by all aid organizations" said Aicher to Munich "Abendzeitung".

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Not sure how widespread this is but our local hospital trusts vaccination hubs have ‘wastage clinics’. It’s a bit like Glastonbury ‘secret sales’ that only appear at random times and disappear once all the bookings are made. The information and booking details were on the Hospital Trust website and quite ‘low key’ at the bottom of the Covid19 vaccine information page. One day last week there were apparently 700 jabs available that were due to go by their ‘use date’ and could be taken up by any age group. This perhaps explains why there are ‘walk in’ clinics with lots of spare jabs available and not just the end of day wastage?

For any of you <50 it could be worth checking your local Hospital Trust website to see if they have a similar scheme

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34 minutes ago, onthebeach said:

Not sure how widespread this is but our local hospital trusts vaccination hubs have ‘wastage clinics’. It’s a bit like Glastonbury ‘secret sales’ that only appear at random times and disappear once all the bookings are made. The information and booking details were on the Hospital Trust website and quite ‘low key’ at the bottom of the Covid19 vaccine information page. One day last week there were apparently 700 jabs available that were due to go by their ‘use date’ and could be taken up by any age group. This perhaps explains why there are ‘walk in’ clinics with lots of spare jabs available and not just the end of day wastage?

For any of you <50 it could be worth checking your local Hospital Trust website to see if they have a similar scheme

Not all hospitals do i know that Bristol hospitals are no longer doing jabs.. And cos they won't let me out to have one I've booked it means i can't get my jab. 

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