When will this shit end?

[zahidf]

 

[Matt42]

8 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

I find it amusing for an American to talk about UK media 🙂 

Watching CNN and Fox News exposes how no American gets to talk down about other peoples media 🙂  its like having the Guardian and Daily Mail on the TV 🙂

Very little journalistic credibility operating out there.  

Whilst Fox is arguably worse than our media I think it plays a different role in the media.

Here you can tell the tories draft policy with the intention to not piss off the tabloids. 

Edited March 17, 2021 by Matt42

[Ozanne]

1 hour ago, El Matador said:

There hasn't been an increase in cases though in which case there's no reason to wait and see

It’s looking good so far but this next week is when we would see any increase in cases if there’s going to be one. Although it should be noted that the decline in cases has stalled. So we are still in the position of wait and see. Either way though it’s only 12 days before we can socialise with a group friends again, not long to go!

[aj6658]

12 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

CNN is a shit show as well.  Just comes from a ultra left narrative.

Neither are balanced or useful.

Think CNN and FOX are different beasts. Yes CNN is left wing but Fox is one of the greatest dangers to democracy but is now being trumped by OANN and Newsmax. 

[SwedgeAntilles]

CNN is as "left wing" as the Democratic Party. It's as centrist as it comes, the idea that it's left wing is just a lazy "both sides are as bad as each other" take. 

[danbailey80]

30 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

CNN is a shit show as well.  Just comes from a ultra left narrative.

Neither are balanced or useful.

'Ultra left'? Surely you're joking? 

[Matt42]

CNN reported negatively on the U.K furlough scheme to stop Americans getting any ideas.

They are about as centrist as it comes. Many republicans consider anything left of the Republican Party communism so I wouldn’t fall into that trap.

[zahidf]

Piss off variants 

 

[steviewevie]

CNN used to be beloved of the republicans didn't it? corporate America. But they are certainly not pro Trump style populism which is why now look pro democrat...they are conservative with a small c. 

[JoeyT]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

We still have a huge cross section of society unprotected.  While risks decrease every day its still too early to just unlock everything.  

Read stuartberts post above.  We still have at risk people waiting to get the antibodies they need etc.

I'm not saying "open up everything" however I fail to see the issue with bringing the Apr 12th rule changes forward.

The indoor sections this opens up are all places which have adapted significantly to be "covid secure" and as far as i'm aware there has been little in the way of evidence to suggest these places played a big part in the spread of the virus?

The outside hospitality & outdoor attractions bit is of minimal risk due to being outside.

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

I'm not saying "open up everything" however I fail to see the issue with bringing the Apr 12th rule changes forward.

The indoor sections this opens up are all places which have adapted significantly to be "covid secure" and as far as i'm aware there has been little in the way of evidence to suggest these places played a big part in the spread of the virus?

The outside hospitality & outdoor attractions bit is of minimal risk due to being outside.

Yeah, i would move it to just before Easter personally. Though i guess most places wont be ready to open up last minute anyway

I dont see the point of not having rule of 6 outside now though

[Zoo Music Girl]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

Yeah, i would move it to just before Easter personally. Though i guess most places wont be ready to open up last minute anyway

I dont see the point of not having rule of 6 outside now though

Was talking to my family about possibility of going to a pub to eat outside after April 12th. Everything completely booked up near them that weekend. Think it'll be quite a while before I get to a pub regardless! 

[Ozanne]

7 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Yeah, i would move it to just before Easter personally. Though i guess most places wont be ready to open up last minute anyway

I dont see the point of not having rule of 6 outside now though

12 days mate till you can do that, it’ll fly by! You can socialise outside with a friend before then.

[zahidf]

5 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Was talking to my family about possibility of going to a pub to eat outside after April 12th. Everything completely booked up near them that weekend. Think it'll be quite a while before I get to a pub regardless! 

Yeah lots of stuff booked up. maybe look at a rooftop bar of some sort?

[Havors]

19 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

I'm not saying "open up everything" however I fail to see the issue with bringing the Apr 12th rule changes forward.

The indoor sections this opens up are all places which have adapted significantly to be "covid secure" and as far as i'm aware there has been little in the way of evidence to suggest these places played a big part in the spread of the virus?

The outside hospitality & outdoor attractions bit is of minimal risk due to being outside.

Will be interesting to see what comes of the legal action threatened. Hospitality have asked the government to provide evidence that restaurants etc are more dangerous than non essential shops or they are getting sued to buggery. They do have a point, something to keep an eye on. 

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, Havors said:

Will be interesting to see what comes of the legal action threatened. Hospitality have asked the government to provide evidence that restaurants etc are more dangerous than non essential shops or they are getting sued to buggery. They do have a point, something to keep an eye on. 

To win hospitality will have to prove itsel safer. Which isn't really possible. its not the type of trade which makes something safer not. Its the people interaction/contact which carries the risk of passing the infection on.

[Ozanne]

2 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

To win hospitality will have to prove itsel safer. Which isn't really possible. its not the type of trade which makes something safer not. Its the people interaction/contact which carries the risk of passing the infection on.

By the time they have that evidence and it goes to court hospitality will be able to open too. They could sue for lost earnings I suppose. 

[eFestivals]

fYI.ive just seen thatPMQs is at midday today.

[Sasperella]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

CNN is a shit show as well.  Just comes from a ultra left narrative.

Neither are balanced or useful.

"Ultra left"? As in, the kind of thing that even Lenin would think was "a bit much" on the leftie scale...?

Sure it is 😆

[Zoo Music Girl]

29 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Yeah lots of stuff booked up. maybe look at a rooftop bar of some sort?

Nothing as trendy as that in my parents' bit of Essex! It's okay, we will probably just do a garden meet.

[Mellotr0n]

13 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

You are all welcome to your wrong opinions on CNN - who would of thought a bunch lefties would defend CNN 🙂 

I've started to notice, everyone in the World is wrong but you, aren't they? 😉

[Mellotr0n]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

I am glad people are starting to notice!  Now if you could just all fall in line and be better that would be good 😄 

You know what they say...

"If you think everyone around you is the problem, maybe............."

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

This thread has descended into Twitter. Absolute shitshow.

[efcfanwirral]

21 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I think we have to refer to people with expertise in this area who say differently...

Keep in mind the virus doesn't carry a passport showing which shops, supermarkets and restaurants its been too.

The concept it didn't spread in pubs and restaurants is frankly for the birds.

The words "covid secure" were one of the biggest deceptions of the last year. If you're indoors, it's not properly ventilated and you're breathing in the same air as other people, you could catch the virus. No amount of table wiping or hand sanitising is going to stop that.

 

[Ozanne]

2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

The words "covid secure" were one of the biggest deceptions of the last year. If you're indoors, it's not properly ventilated and you're breathing in the same air as other people, you could catch the virus. No amount of table wiping or hand sanitising is going to stop that.

 

Yeah I agree. Nothing is ‘COVID secure’, places can be safer with precautions in place but the very nature of an airborne virus means it’ll get into a place somehow.