When will this shit end?

[rascalpete]

11 minutes ago, st dan said:

 

I have family there, they did an initial 6 week(?) lockdown last March but have been covid and restriction free since. They had a few community cases following Christmas but have got zero covid again and now no restrictions as of today, safe to say I’m jealous 

[Ozanne]

4 minutes ago, rascalpete said:

I have family there, they did an initial 6 week(?) lockdown last March but have been covid and restriction free since. They had a few community cases following Christmas but have got zero covid again and now no restrictions as of today, safe to say I’m jealous 

Me too, they’ve been able to really take advantage of being a small island. Good on them! Guernsey has been slightly the same too I think. 

[st dan]

Just now, rascalpete said:

I have family there, they did an initial 6 week(?) lockdown last March but have been covid and restriction free since. They had a few community cases following Christmas but have got zero covid again and now no restrictions as of today, safe to say I’m jealous 

Interesting - although I guess with the borders being closed to stop people entering (except exceptional circumstances) has made it is much easier to eradicate it completely there. Guess the real challenge is if/when they allow people to enter with no restrictions, but assuming they’ll be extremely cautious and only do it when the time is right.
But yeah, extremely jealous but hope the people living there enjoy returning to normal life. 

[Quark]

How's things on Jersey @Funkyfairy!?

[JoeyT]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Think we have one more hard month ahead of us, and then things should start to improve.

Hopefully.

Things are improving daily!

Every vaccination brings us closer to normality & every day brings us closer to summer.

I try to focus on the little things to keep a positive mindset.

Today’s positive thoughts:

- it’s no longer January!

- February means we’re closer to March

- March is when the clocks go forward, we get longer evenings and we get some decent sunshine if we’re lucky.

 

[zahidf]

Valneva SE CFO David Lawrence told the Today Programme that whilst the UK has been in discussions and had signed deals since the summer of 2020, the EU is yet to sign even a letter of intent with the firm, which is headquartered in Paris...

“Yes they should. Of course it comes down to slots. In turn we have got suppliers and this is why it’s important for example that the UK has exercised its option now, so we have got to book slots with suppliers who are giving us key components for the vaccine. The same will be true of other vaccines, the supply process isn’t something that you can just switch on and switch off over a couple of weeks.”
 

[fraybentos1]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Valneva SE CFO David Lawrence told the Today Programme that whilst the UK has been in discussions and had signed deals since the summer of 2020, the EU is yet to sign even a letter of intent with the firm, which is headquartered in Paris...

“Yes they should. Of course it comes down to slots. In turn we have got suppliers and this is why it’s important for example that the UK has exercised its option now, so we have got to book slots with suppliers who are giving us key components for the vaccine. The same will be true of other vaccines, the supply process isn’t something that you can just switch on and switch off over a couple of weeks.”
 

Sounds like they haven't learnt their lesson...

I read that we have secured another 40 mil Valvena doses for 2022. Not sure what this means considering we should be done every adult way before then. Maybe for booster shots or they'll be given to other countries perhaps...

 

[balthazarstarbuck]

31 minutes ago, st dan said:

 

I’m reliably informed it’s quicker by Jetski.

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

Things are improving daily!

Every vaccination brings us closer to normality & every day brings us closer to summer.

I try to focus on the little things to keep a positive mindset.

Today’s positive thoughts:

- it’s no longer January!

- February means we’re closer to March

- March is when the clocks go forward, we get longer evenings and we get some decent sunshine if we’re lucky.

 

Valentines day soon too, which is always a big day for me and my poor postman.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Valentines day soon too, which is always a big day for me and my poor postman.

the way the post is going at the moment .... id get those cards sent now .... 🙂 

[xxialac]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Valentines day soon too, which is always a big day for me and my poor postman.

You mean you welcome him in a silk dressing gown with soft lighting and some Barry White playing in the background?

[Crazyfool01]

Shit 😞

Edited February 1, 2021 by crazyfool1

[Punksnotdead]

47 minutes ago, st dan said:

 

Who'd have thought the day would ever come that I'm jealous of people living on the isle of man?

[Smeble]

18 hours ago, steviewevie said:

OH NO! has he not had a vaccine?

1st dose probably, 2nd dose probably not.

[gizmoman]

4 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

Who'd have thought the day would ever come that I'm jealous of people living on the isle of man?

They're always one step ahead.

[Ozanne]

10 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Shit 😞

At least they are going hard with mass-testing early. It should catch it before it spreads, hopefully!

[Smeble]

Whilst the 1st dose numbers are fantastic, 2nd dose numbers are what really matters, and those are not so fantastic.

my parents had their first dose 4 weeks ago, not even a hint about when they will get the 2nd one, my dad has to go into his doctors every week for a non covid related checkup and they told him last week they haven’t had any vaccine in nearly 2 weeks and aren’t expecting any this week. It will be interesting to see when they do have doses will they prioritise people getting the 1st dose or make sure people running out of time for the second get it instead. Will pressure be applied to keep those 1st dose numbers looking good?

[DeanoL]

26 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Sounds like they haven't learnt their lesson...

I read that we have secured another 40 mil Valvena doses for 2022. Not sure what this means considering we should be done every adult way before then. Maybe for booster shots or they'll be given to other countries perhaps...

I'm starting to be slightly concerned at what we're doing with all these vaccines. And as far as I know the Oxford one is the only one that can't contractually be sold for profit? I can't see us giving these away, given we spent £1.2billion on them, which is over 10% of the foreign aid budget. Unless that's what we're spending that budget on.

[DeanoL]

Just now, Smeble said:

Whilst the 1st dose numbers are fantastic, 2nd dose numbers are what really matters, and those are not so fantastic.

my parents had their first dose 4 weeks ago, not even a hint about when they will get the 2nd one, my dad has to go into his doctors every week for a non covid related checkup and they told him last week they haven’t had any vaccine in nearly 2 weeks and aren’t expecting any this week. It will be interesting to see when they do have doses will they prioritise people getting the 1st dose or make sure people running out of time for the second get it instead. Will pressure be applied to keep those 1st dose numbers looking good?

The second dose numbers are fantastic as they're going according to plan. Given that it seems more and more like the longer waiting period between doses actually increases effectiveness, it's the 440k that have a second dose already, and so probably got a lower level of protection, that could be seen as the failure.

I do think at the 12 week mark we will start to see people getting second jabs, and at that point we should have a fairly solid supply to manage it.

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, Smeble said:

Whilst the 1st dose numbers are fantastic, 2nd dose numbers are what really matters, and those are not so fantastic.

my parents had their first dose 4 weeks ago, not even a hint about when they will get the 2nd one, my dad has to go into his doctors every week for a non covid related checkup and they told him last week they haven’t had any vaccine in nearly 2 weeks and aren’t expecting any this week. It will be interesting to see when they do have doses will they prioritise people getting the 1st dose or make sure people running out of time for the second get it instead. Will pressure be applied to keep those 1st dose numbers looking good?

those won't be so fantastic yet though will they if people are having the doses 12 weeks apart ...... most won't be near that date yet ... I thought when people had dose 1 they were given a date for dose 2 ? or was that just in the early stages with Pfizer when the dosing schedule was shorter? 

[xxialac]

"Vic Rayner, the executive director of the National Care Forum, which represents not-for-profit care home providers, told Sky News this morning that just 27% of its member organisations had 70% or more of their staff vaccinated as of early last week, adding that access to doses was the main issue"

Struggling to square this away against the government claims?

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 hour ago, st dan said:

 

Should buy a jet ski and do it that way... bet no one’s tried that before 

 

12 minutes ago, Smeble said:

Whilst the 1st dose numbers are fantastic, 2nd dose numbers are what really matters, and those are not so fantastic.

my parents had their first dose 4 weeks ago, not even a hint about when they will get the 2nd one, my dad has to go into his doctors every week for a non covid related checkup and they told him last week they haven’t had any vaccine in nearly 2 weeks and aren’t expecting any this week. It will be interesting to see when they do have doses will they prioritise people getting the 1st dose or make sure people running out of time for the second get it instead. Will pressure be applied to keep those 1st dose numbers looking good?

This is absolute nonsense btw. 

[Zoo Music Girl]

6 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

those won't be so fantastic yet though will they if people are having the doses 12 weeks apart ...... most won't be near that date yet ... I thought when people had dose 1 they were given a date for dose 2 ? or was that just in the early stages with Pfizer when the dosing schedule was shorter? 

My partner's dad had Pfizer and was given an appointment for dose 2. My mum has AZ and was just told she would be contacted when it was time. Not sure if different for the vaccines or the areas? He was also a week or so earlier.

[Fuzzy Afro]

If they really want to stamp out this South African variant then I think they need a local lockdown in Woking that is stricter than the national rules until everyone has been tested. Go hard, go early, and get back in line with the national rules ASAP

 

- Everyone must stay at home unless absolutely necessary. This means the closure of all workplaces that are not essential, and no outdoor exercise.

 

- Those who do need to leave home must wear a face covering at all times 

 

- One person from each household only can food shop

 

- Door to door testing 

 

- Any positive cases should be escorted to a quarantine facility 

[Ozanne]

16 minutes ago, xxialac said:

"Vic Rayner, the executive director of the National Care Forum, which represents not-for-profit care home providers, told Sky News this morning that just 27% of its member organisations had 70% or more of their staff vaccinated as of early last week, adding that access to doses was the main issue"

Struggling to square this away against the government claims?

I think it’s the ‘offering’ part, they offered it to every care home resident.