When will this shit end?

[Sawdusty surfer]

On 1/18/2021 at 10:26 AM, eFestivals said:

I definitely saw something where the UK got no deliveries of the Pfizer vaccine for somewhen in the next few weeks (might be this week), and which coincided with the pause for EU deliveries.

 

Just heard that stocks of the first Covid vaccine may soon run out.

 

 

 

Pfizer Chiefs say that they predict a riot.......

 

 

 

Edited January 19, 2021 by Sawdusty Surfer

[StuMalinas]

Fucking hell

[Ozanne]

 

[ace56blaa]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

33,355 cases today. the gov website is slower than the press atm

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, ace56blaa said:

33,355 cases today. the gov website is slower than the press atm

at least cases are dropping showing lockdown is working...

I guess deaths now are mostly people who caught the virus during the last two weeks of December...?

[FestivalJamie]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

at least cases are dropping showing lockdown is working...

I guess deaths now are mostly people who caught the virus during the last two weeks of December...?

Yep... unfortunately I think we will see the peak in deaths next week though.

[km9]

3 hours ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Flat out misinformation. Belgium, Italy and the Czech Republic as well as a few tiny countries have higher death rates 

Why is it OK for people to jump on @Fuzzy Afro's back when he was just pointing out that information quoted on here as fact was actually false?

[Fuzzy Afro]

Less than 20 deaths per day during the three months where were largely allowed to mix households and go to the pub (household mixing was legalised on 4th July and the rule of 6 brought on 14th September)

 

I’m convinced this virus is seasonal 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, km9 said:

Why is it OK for people to jump on @Fuzzy Afro's back when he was just pointing out that information quoted on here as fact was actually false?

Par for the course with some of the boo boys on here. Our government look bad enough in the actual data without having to make up statistics to make them look even worse. 

[steviewevie]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

Par for the course with some of the boo boys on here. Our government look bad enough in the actual data without having to make up statistics to make them look even worse. 

BOOO

[Ozanne]

 

[fraybentos1]

2 minutes ago, km9 said:

Why is it OK for people to jump on @Fuzzy Afro's back when he was just pointing out that information quoted on here as fact was actually false?

Agreed. @Fuzzy Afro was correct and backed it up but no apology given of course...

[leonaves]

10 minutes ago, ace56blaa said:

33,355 cases today. the gov website is slower than the press atm

source is this tweet i believe: 

 

so still the govt

 

[steviewevie]

so...what's the crack...we have the highest daily deaths in the world at the moment?

[km9]

1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

Agreed. @Fuzzy Afro was correct and backed it up but no apology given of course...

Maybe an apology isn't needed if enough people shout you down and then change the subject.

[steviewevie]

Go EU!

 

[Ozanne]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

so...what's the crack...we have the highest daily deaths in the world at the moment?

Yeah (from that article I posted above):

Statistics - collected by Our World in Data, an Oxford University research platform - show that the UK to have the worst seven-day average of new daily Covid-19 deaths per million people - a rate of 16.54 per 1,000,000.

[st dan]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Personally I don’t believe it’s the right time for a tweet like that from Kier (although he is of course correct in what he is saying) - the thousands of grieving families don’t need finger pointing right this moment. 

Edited January 19, 2021 by st dan

[Fuzzy Afro]

4 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Agreed. @Fuzzy Afro was correct and backed it up but no apology given of course...

Unfortunately some of our posters have been infected with the great poison that is dogmatism. Good that other can offer more balanced analysis though 🙂 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Yeah (from that article I posted above):

Statistics - collected by Our World in Data, an Oxford University research platform - show that the UK to have the worst seven-day average of new daily Covid-19 deaths per million people - a rate of 16.54 per 1,000,000.

ok, but not the worst overall?

and this has triggered a little argument.

[Fuzzy Afro]

2 minutes ago, st dan said:

Personally I don’t believe it’s the right time for a tweet like that from Kier - the thousands of grieving families don’t need finger pointing right this moment. 

To be fair to him, the two main parties have increasingly convergent viewpoints on key issues like state intervention in the economy as well as on immigration and Brexit. If that’s the case going into the election the competence card is the only card Labour have to play. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, steviewevie said:

ok, but not the worst overall?

and this has triggered a little argument.

Exactly.

 

It’s correct and fair to point out that the UK has the highest deaths/population reported in the last 7 days.

 

What’s not correct is David Schneider’s assertion that the UK has “the worst death rate in the world” without any reference to the short time period. Other countries such as Belgium, Czech Republic and Italy as well as a few micro states are higher up the wall of shame than we are. 

[Ozanne]

Just now, steviewevie said:

ok, but not the worst overall?

and this has triggered a little argument.

If you mean total of deaths then no, this has come from Oxford University’s research platform which says currently our deaths per million are the worst.

I’ve no idea about the argument. 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

To be fair to him, the two main parties have increasingly convergent viewpoints on key issues like state intervention in the economy as well as on immigration and Brexit. If that’s the case going into the election the competence card is the only card Labour have to play. 

we'll see how generous the govt will be with welfare etc after this thing is over.

[hfuhruhurr]

here's the link to the data:

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus