When will this shit end?

[zahidf]

less than previously thought (though still bad)

 

 

[fraybentos1]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

less than previously thought (though still bad)

 

 

Just shows how knee jerk some reactions can be. Immediately the 70% thing was piled on and repeated a million times.

 

Not to mention the chat about it being much worse in kids which wasn’t true. 

[Ozanne]

 

 

[tarw]

1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said:

Just shows how knee jerk some reactions can be. Immediately the 70% thing was piled on and repeated a million times.

 

Not to mention the chat about it being much worse in kids which wasn’t true. 

It was quite obviously spin to try to get greater compliance with the numbers growing the way that they were. 
 

just as we were told that masks were ineffective at the beginning to ensure that frontline workers could get them. 
 

The problem is that they don’t think of the long term consequences 

[Ozanne]

Just now, tarw said:

It was quite obviously spin to try to get greater compliance with the numbers growing the way that they were. 
 

just as we were told that masks were ineffective at the beginning to ensure that frontline workers could get them. 
 

The problem is that they don’t think of the long term consequences 

Or they were trying to cover their own incompetence? 😉 

[tarw]

Just now, Ozanne said:

Or they were trying to cover their own incompetence? 😉 

That as well!

But I’ve come to the sad conclusion that a sizeable proportion of the population will not see the inadequacies of the government whatever they do. 
 

So more to do with short term manipulation 

[efcfanwirral]

What's the catch....

[Ozanne]

3 minutes ago, tarw said:

That as well!

But I’ve come to the sad conclusion that a sizeable proportion of the population will not see the inadequacies of the government whatever they do. 
 

So more to do with short term manipulation 

Their thought process still doesn't really make sense though if you go with the line of thinking that they know what they are doing. In that scenario where they are telling us about a more transmissible variant to bring up compliance they still enable people to mix households at Christmas thus boosting the transmissibility of that already stronger variant. Now either they have no idea what they are doing or made a huge mistake over Christmas and weren't strong enough to admit that.

[tarw]

7 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Their thought process still doesn't really make sense though if you go with the line of thinking that they know what they are doing. In that scenario where they are telling us about a more transmissible variant to bring up compliance they still enable people to mix households at Christmas thus boosting the transmissibility of that already stronger variant. Now either they have no idea what they are doing or made a huge mistake over Christmas and weren't strong enough to admit that.

The last thing that this government can be accused of is knowing what they are doing!!!!!

Except maybe Cummings who has tried to push herd immunity through duplicitous means

[zahidf]

1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said:

Just shows how knee jerk some reactions can be. Immediately the 70% thing was piled on and repeated a million times.

 

Not to mention the chat about it being much worse in kids which wasn’t true. 

Tbh the original evidence was around 50/70%. New evidence is showing it to be much lower thankfully, but I dont think anyone was lying or making stuff up about it last month.

[zahidf]

Oh hell yeah

 

[stuartbert two hats]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

Oh hell yeah

 

Fuck me though, their serious cases are higher now than at the start of the month judging by that. Does that jump in cases suggest the younger people decided to throw caution to the wind "once the vulnerable were vaccinated?". Is there one more chance for our government to fuck things up by dropping restrictions once the very old are vaccinated, before the middle aged (and younger) have also had their jabs?

Edited January 17, 2021 by stuartbert two hats
Added "serious"

[Billy Corgan's Ego]

44 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Fuck me though, their serious cases are higher now than at the start of the month judging by that. Does that jump in cases suggest the younger people decided to throw caution to the wind "once the vulnerable were vaccinated?". Is there one more chance for our government to fuck things up by dropping restrictions once the very old are vaccinated, before the middle aged (and younger) have also had their jabs?

This a certainty, IMO

[JB15]

44 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Fuck me though, their serious cases are higher now than at the start of the month judging by that. Does that jump in cases suggest the younger people decided to throw caution to the wind "once the vulnerable were vaccinated?". Is there one more chance for our government to fuck things up by dropping restrictions once the very old are vaccinated, before the middle aged (and younger) have also had their jabs?

Of course there’s another chance our government will fuck it up, they nearly always do!

[MrBarry465]

59 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Fuck me though, their serious cases are higher now than at the start of the month judging by that. Does that jump in cases suggest the younger people decided to throw caution to the wind "once the vulnerable were vaccinated?". Is there one more chance for our government to fuck things up by dropping restrictions once the very old are vaccinated, before the middle aged (and younger) have also had their jabs?

Reading between the lines the government don't want to fuck this up again. I think we will see a much more cautious approach now tbh.

If the vaccines continue to go well, domestically we could see a return to 'normal' within the UK this year. However, I think travelling in and out of the UK is going to become difficult for some time to come. They won't risk the mutations running rampant again and while its about a year late, it does seem as though border restrictions are going to be here over summer.

Edited January 17, 2021 by MrBarry465

[steviewevie]

2 hours ago, zahidf said:

Oh hell yeah

 

this is pfizer vaccine, right?

[Crazyfool01]

Covid-19: Vaccination rollout begins for over-70s in England https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55698132 that’s my parents soon 🙂 

Edited January 17, 2021 by crazyfool1

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

this is pfizer vaccine, right?

Yeah.

It seems(though hard to read) cases are going a little down but with an increase in one age group comparatively. But the cases in Israel are lower anyway.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Covid-19: Vaccination rollout begins for over-70s in England https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55698132 that’s my parents soon 🙂 

don't suppose they have a spare one for my mum first?

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, steviewevie said:

don't suppose they have a spare one for my mum first?

Still prioritising over 80s I believe ... can she get to Dover ? I’ll give my sister a nudge 😀

[steviewevie]

Just now, crazyfool1 said:

Still prioritising over 80s I believe ... can she get to Dover ? I’ll give my sister a nudge 😀

hopefully she'll get a call this week...she's just trying to do the right thing and be patient and wait to be called.

[Lizzim]

7 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Covid-19: Vaccination rollout begins for over-70s in England https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55698132 that’s my parents soon 🙂 

Maybe should finish the over 80s first though

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

hopefully she'll get a call this week...she's just trying to do the right thing and be patient and wait to be called.

Yep ... still loads of early priority’s to go ... End of the week I might get a bit twitchy ... think I heard they were around 50% of over 80s so plenty to go yet 

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Lizzim said:

Maybe should finish the over 80s first though

Looks like that’s what they are doing 

[Ozanne]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

hopefully she'll get a call this week...she's just trying to do the right thing and be patient and wait to be called.

Mist be so frustrating knowing you should get one but are waiting around.