When will this shit end?

[Mr. B]

1 minute ago, basicminds said:

so are tier 4 households able to mix xmas day?

No

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Paul ™ said:

Not sure why the change of days to 1, surely it takes less than a day to infect someone... so whats point in it? 

just reduces chance I guess...especially if people not staying the night.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Just now, WestCountryGirl said:

Yeah, as @Zoo Music Girl says, it's not about the tiers - it's about being able to travel there and back in a day, as you can't stay overnight.

As my journey was Liverpool-Plymouth, it is not in any way practical just to celebrate Christmas Day.

Are you still allowed to stay in a hotel though? Could you maybe do that? See your parents in the day but not stay with them overnight?

I'm sorry for you guys. It is shit.

[squirrelarmy]

Just now, Gilgamesh69 said:

Does seem a little silly though. I mean, if I go over there and everyone is staying in  for the week, what difference will it make if I stay for one day or 5?

It’s to limit people having multiple parties with different groups each day

[WestCountryGirl]

Just now, Gilgamesh69 said:

Does seem a little silly though. I mean, if I go over there and everyone is staying in  for the week, what difference will it make if I stay for one day or 5?

I think essentially what the government are after is for people not to travel out of area, but without saying that they're locking the whole country in place.

[Zoo Music Girl]

1 minute ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

Does seem a little silly though. I mean, if I go over there and everyone is staying in  for the week, what difference will it make if I stay for one day or 5?

I agree! It's more about the amount of people you see that the amount of time.

[JoeyT]

Can’t see the issue of staying over at someone’s house on Christmas Day?

If you’ve spent the whole day there per say what’s not staying overnight achieving?

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, JoeyT said:

Can’t see the issue of staying over at someone’s house on Christmas Day?

If you’ve spent the whole day there per say what’s not staying overnight achieving?

the longer you are in same house as someone, the higher the chance of infection.

[Ozanne]

They don't want people travelling to different regions so not allowing over night stays means there is less of a chance people will do that.

[steviewevie]

 

[Paul ™]

8 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Notice he referred to the November to December lockdown as autumn measures? That seemed deliberate, lockdown 1 level restrictions coming again soon at some time.

It was never called a 'lockdown'

5 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

It’s to limit people having multiple parties with different groups each day

Then surely it would be the amount of people limited and not the duration.

 

[Chapple12345]

What a gut punch for so many people, just remember though us Brits can adapt and overcome anything 

[steviewevie]

Assume you might be infectious.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Chapple12345 said:

What a gut punch for so many people, just remember though us Brits can adapt and overcome anything 

I can't.

[Barney McGrew]

2 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said:

What a gut punch for so many people, just remember though us Brits can adapt and overcome anything 

Aye, and we've got to remember that the end is in sight.

Edited December 19, 2020 by Barney McGrew

[stuartbert two hats]

15 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

The Tv version or the takeaway version ? 

Currys is open and currys are available for takeaway.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Paul ™ said:

Then surely it would be the amount of people limited and not the duration.

 

They want to limit the duration. Being close to someone with the virus for 15minutes is less risky than being with them for an hour. Being close to someone with the virus for 8 hours is less risky than being with them for 24 hours.

[squirrelarmy]

Which tabloid is going to use the headline “Boris Cancels Christmas”

I can see the Mirror and Star going for it. 

[ace56blaa]

Are support bubbles still allowed in Tier 4?

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, ace56blaa said:

Are support bubbles still allowed in Tier 4?

yes ... 

[steviewevie]

If can only mix on christmas day that stops trains being packed which was a big worry.

[Gilgamesh69]

Hm, I might still go then. I can imagine we'll all just stay in rather than going out to pubs anyway. Shame I wont be able to see my friends over there though :(.

 

It's just hard trying to find a balance between whats good for the public health and what's good for my mental health. Part of me is scared of the return to normality because I don't even know if my new mind will be able to handle it

[Paul ™]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

They want to limit the duration. Being close to someone with the virus for 15minutes is less risky than being with them for an hour. Being close to someone with the virus for 8 hours is less risky than being with them for 24 hours.

Then that's what they should message and not the way they have by saying 1 day... no one will stick to this anyway so it's a moot point.

[steviewevie]

Looks my Mum will spend her 90th birthday not seeing any family.

[squirrelarmy]

Just now, Gilgamesh69 said:

It's just hard trying to find a balance between whats good for the public health and what's good for my mental health. Part of me is scared of the return to normality because I don't even know if my new mind will be able to handle it

The support bubbles exist to help peoples mental health. Don’t be alone this year. You will be allowed to travel to your bubble.