JoeyT Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, incident said: There's certainly scope for discussions to be had. I assume the numbers quoted are the absolute maximum based on their own manufacturing capacity - the question is whether or not they're prepared to subcontract / licence out, or to failing that can strike a deal to acquire existing (ie ready to go) manufacturing capacity from elsewhere. If they're the only game in town or significantly more effective than the others, then there'll certainly be significant pressure on them to increase capacity one way or another, and it'll most likely be lucrative to do so. I was thinking this exact same thing. Surely you pull all resources together in something like this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st dan Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, incident said: There's certainly scope for discussions to be had. I assume the numbers quoted are the absolute maximum based on their own manufacturing capacity - the question is whether or not they're prepared to subcontract / licence out, or to failing that can strike a deal to acquire existing (ie ready to go) manufacturing capacity from elsewhere. If they're the only game in town or significantly more effective than the others, then there'll certainly be significant pressure on them to increase capacity one way or another, and it'll most likely be lucrative to do so. They can have my spare bedroom if they want/need it? But seriously - potentially fantastic news! Well done to those working on this. True heroes!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topmarksbri Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, JoeyT said: I was thinking this exact same thing. Surely you pull all resources together in something like this?! Medicine is of course, big business. If you were a shareholder of a company developing a rival vaccine I imagine you're probably strongly against this idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, incident said: There's certainly scope for discussions to be had. I assume the numbers quoted are the absolute maximum based on their own manufacturing capacity - the question is whether or not they're prepared to subcontract / licence out, or to failing that can strike a deal to acquire existing (ie ready to go) manufacturing capacity from elsewhere. If they're the only game in town or significantly more effective than the others, then there'll certainly be significant pressure on them to increase capacity one way or another, and it'll most likely be lucrative to do so. I assume theyll license it out asap for quick manufracture. If we have 50 millions doses, thats the elderly and health workers vaccinated, and we can all CRACK ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh69 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, topmarksbri said: each person will need 2... Why's that then eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, topmarksbri said: Medicine is of course, big business. If you were a shareholder of a company developing a rival vaccine I imagine you're probably strongly against this idea... One imagines though that as we've been told many times lots of the vaccines in trials will fail for one reason or another you just start manufacturing at the sites which are no longer required as the vaccine failed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace56blaa Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ozanne said: We’ve just been Biden our time waiting for a vaccine 😉 Haven't you made this joke enough over the last week haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topmarksbri Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, Gilgamesh69 said: Why's that then eh? Unsure - but Fergus Walsh seems to think this is the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakeyCrash Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, ace56blaa said: Haven't you made this joke enough over the last week haha Yeah, surely by now it’s forBiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, topmarksbri said: Have Pfizer discussed how they're going to distribute? I know Oxford have discussed earmarking some for 3rd world countries etc. Have to say 1.3bn doesn't seem like a lot when each person will need 2... no real reason why normal healthy young people need one i don't think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascalpete Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, zahidf said: I assume theyll license it out asap for quick manufracture. If we have 50 millions doses, thats the elderly and health workers vaccinated, and we can all CRACK ON Is it 50m doses for U.K.? If so that’s even better than I thought, so 25m people vaccinated? What % of the population is likely to give herd immunity do we know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topmarksbri Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, JoeyT said: One imagines though that as we've been told many times lots of the vaccines in trials will fail for one reason or another you just start manufacturing at the sites which are no longer required as the vaccine failed? You'd hope so but the business end of medicine isn't as altruistic as we'd like it to be. Maybe could be government mandated? I would also suggest that most people think we'll end up with more than once vaccine so would probably be sensible to produce more than one in case of adverse reactions in certain groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycra Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said: The tests are for infectiousness are they not? If someone is infected but not infectious, then them going about their business surely isn’t problematic? No the test is not for infectiousness, it just detects prescence of Coronavirus. It if fails to detect because the sample contained a low virus loading, it does not mean the person is not infectious. Virus loads can also change quickly from different samples from the same person as their own infection changes/grows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace56blaa Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, ShakeyCrash said: Yeah, surely by now it’s forBiden Like on this forum and the presidential forum, All I see is Ozanne making the bidentical joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace56blaa Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, rascalpete said: Is it 50m doses for U.K.? If so that’s even better than I thought, so 25m people vaccinated? What % of the population is likely to give herd immunity do we know? Herd Immunity is 60-70 percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Shares in Zoom and others have fallen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zahidf Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, rascalpete said: Is it 50m doses for U.K.? If so that’s even better than I thought, so 25m people vaccinated? What % of the population is likely to give herd immunity do we know? My mistake its 30 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said: Why's that then eh? It needs a booster to be effective. So you take two doses about a month apart to be fully protected. It's routine for childhood vaccines like measles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, ace56blaa said: Like on this forum and the presidential forum, All I see is Ozanne making the bidentical joke! Sorry mate I’ll say goodbi den. 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, zero000 said: Trump gone and a vaccine at last. 2020 you’ve come good! Brexit will be cancelled by Friday and the Tories gone by Christmas at this rate! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger123 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 They just said on politics live that we’ve got 30 million doses ordered and you need 2 jabs so that means 15m people can get vaccinated straight up. There’s 12.5m people in the governments ‘vulnerable’ category so we have enough to vaccinate them and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, stuartbert two hats said: Brexit will be cancelled by Friday and the Tories gone by Christmas at this rate! That would be a Christmas miracle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, ace56blaa said: Like on this forum and the presidential forum, All I see is Ozanne making the bidentical joke! Joe-ke surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, ace56blaa said: Herd Immunity is 60-70 percent A word of caution - we don't yet know whether it's going to have any sterilising effect - I.e. will it prevent infection/infectiousness as well as disease? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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