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4 hours ago, WestCountryGirl said:

I am just so angry this morning. I'm just so angry at the government for just so completely fucking this up. I've been angry at them this whole time, I was angry at them before just for being the disgusting Tories that they are, but what galls me the most is that I genuinely believe that Boris Johnson does. not. care. He does not care that this country is being ravaged by this virus. He does not care. He is bored of it. He is nowhere to be seen. He takes no responsibility. He doesn't want it to be his problem.

IT FUCKING IS HIS PROBLEM. 

HE'S THE FUCKING PRIME MINISTER. IT IS HIS FUCKING PROBLEM. He should be trying to fix it the best way he can, with the best knowledge he has available to him! Trying to make people feel safe and like there is a plan, like there is a chance we might get through this with all of our loved ones. Like there is a chance we actually might be able to all be together again.

The Victorian Premier in Australia, Dan Andrews has completed a press conference 120 days in a row. Some poor decisions helped bring on a 2nd wave, but he's led his state, made the hard decisions in bringing in a lockdown and mostly brought the people along with him to a point their rolling average is now less than 5 cases a day. Johnson should be in stocks in Parliament square. He's deserted his post.

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1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

and Jez made it really really REALLY easy for Starmer.

Way to go, repeating the very thing the EHRC report fingers his leadership for. 

The man's a fool.

Exactly. But according to the left on Twitter, Keir had this planned all along. They don’t get it and probably will never accept it. 

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In hindsight, the whole Jezza experiment of trying to create a social movement within the youth spectacularly backfired didn’t it! Although I could see the logic behind it at the time, and it did have some success - to a point.

But let’s be honest in the fact that if a more sensible and less polarising decision was made within the Labour Party back in 2015, then we may have been sat here in completely different situation in regards to both Brexit and Covid. 

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4 minutes ago, st dan said:

In hindsight, the whole Jezza experiment of trying to create a social movement within the youth spectacularly backfired didn’t it! Although I could see the logic behind it at the time, and it did have some success - to a point.

But let’s be honest in the fact that if a more sensible and less polarising decision was made within the Labour Party back in 2010, then we may have been sat here in completely different situation in regards to both Brexit and Covid. 

Out of interest, what decision is that? I’d argue a certain decision should’ve been made in 2008 but the timing doesn’t add that we mean the same thing. 

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1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

Out of interest, what decision is that? I’d argue a certain decision should’ve been made in 2008 but the timing doesn’t add that we mean the same thing. 

When Miliband was utterly rejected by the electorate the move was to pitch into the centre, not the far left 

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It doesn't matter who was leader last decade, they didn't have it in them to kill of the spin the tories gave them. They were unlucky to get the buck for the big crash and the tories never let anyone forget that austerity that followed was "Labour's fault". 

Jezza made sense for a different approach and worked to an extent energising new voter's but was just at the wrong time, Labour still had more to do to shake off their bad with money image before going full socialist (please try again in 15 years).

Now who knows what they do. Keir'll settle the ship but a lot of people are taking it as a fuck you. I don't have the answer's this is just a bit of a rant. We're gonna have the tories forever. Really can't help but think that if that brexit vote had gone the other way (it didn't I've moved on and all that) it would have been one less battle for labour and that could have helped them, I really try not to waste too much thought on that though.

I was 17 in the 2010 elections so couldn't vote but would have gone lib dem and every vote I've taken part in since has gone the other way so I'm either a jynx or maybe I've just got it all wrong. Tiring losing so often and having no hope it'll change.

anyhoo how depressing it that that hopeless rant was quite nice coz it took my mind off the deadly killer virus ruining all our lives currently

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6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Out of interest, what decision is that? I’d argue a certain decision should’ve been made in 2008 but the timing doesn’t add that we mean the same thing. 

Apologies, I actually meant 2015 when he was elected leader (no idea why I defaulted to 2010 when typing it out!). It was a shock and controversial at the time, and has now been proven to have been a disaster quite frankly.

What issue are you referring to in 2008? Let’s be honest though, there have been many cock ups along the way we could choose from. 

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Actually when Corbyn came in it felt like a breath of fresh air, someone with principles who wasn't a career politician in a smart suit...he was pretty popular in those early days. It was during 2018/2019 when all went to pot, he just showed poor leadership over brexit, and over this antisemitism thing...and in the end, with the help of the right wing press, he was really disliked by a lot of people, unpatriotic etc. McDonnell was definitely more pragmatic, and came across so much better in interviews, wouldn't get all snappy and squeaky like Corbyn did when he got asked difficult questions.

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