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1 minute ago, northernringo said:

Much stronger than the one in NI and to me makes more sense.

I'd be surprised if Northern Ireland's current 'circuit breaker' makes much difference.

Interestingly Mark Drakeford has said that the lockdown will be lifted before the benefits are apparent. 

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2 minutes ago, SheffJeff said:

I thought the Australia deal Boris keeps banging on about would be shite but I assumed it meant something other than no deal. Why not just call a spade a spade.

 

Because the vast majority in the country don’t want a no deal, by calling it the Australia-style deal they hope that people won’t notice. 

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2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Because the vast majority in the country don’t want a no deal, by calling it the Australia-style deal they hope that people won’t notice. 

And sadly they're probably right... it'll be spun that its all Europes fault and BoJo will get away with more of his bullshit.

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Covid rates starting to fall in some of England's big cities, latest figures suggest

Covid-19 case rates have started to fall in some of England’s biggest cities, with the sharpest increases now happening in towns and more suburban areas, latest figures suggest.

As PA Media reports, Nottingham, Manchester, Sheffield and Newcastle are among the cities where the weekly rate of new Covid-19 cases rose rapidly at the end of September, coinciding with the start of the new university term, but where levels are now coming down.

The rates have been decreasing for several days, suggesting they are on a downward trend rather than a temporary dip.

In Nottingham the rolling weekly rate of cases peaked at 1,001.2 per 100,000 people for the seven days to October 8 - the highest for any local authority area in England - but since then the number has been falling, and it currently stands at 787.6.

Manchester’s current rate is 432.5, after peaking at 583.5 (in the seven days to October 3); Sheffield’s rate is 396.7, down from 500.3 (the seven days to October 7) while Newcastle stands at 371.5, down from 553.8 (the seven days to October 7).

All current rates are for the seven days to October 14.

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4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

will we just stick to local tiered restrictions then ? or is Boris gonna break .... ? hes going to be under real pressure now with other devolved administrations announcing things ....

I feel like we (England) need this pause - with appropriate support for businesses - but he won’t do it. Might be in for a horrendous couple of months.

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5 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Covid rates starting to fall in some of England's big cities, latest figures suggest

Covid-19 case rates have started to fall in some of England’s biggest cities, with the sharpest increases now happening in towns and more suburban areas, latest figures suggest.

As PA Media reports, Nottingham, Manchester, Sheffield and Newcastle are among the cities where the weekly rate of new Covid-19 cases rose rapidly at the end of September, coinciding with the start of the new university term, but where levels are now coming down.

The rates have been decreasing for several days, suggesting they are on a downward trend rather than a temporary dip.

In Nottingham the rolling weekly rate of cases peaked at 1,001.2 per 100,000 people for the seven days to October 8 - the highest for any local authority area in England - but since then the number has been falling, and it currently stands at 787.6.

Manchester’s current rate is 432.5, after peaking at 583.5 (in the seven days to October 3); Sheffield’s rate is 396.7, down from 500.3 (the seven days to October 7) while Newcastle stands at 371.5, down from 553.8 (the seven days to October 7).

All current rates are for the seven days to October 14.

Once all the positive tests from the students have been cleared out from skewing the data then?

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2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

skewing the data but passing on the virus to others then ? 

Exactly. It also says they increases are now being seen in the towns and suburbs. Which isn’t really a surprise given the virus will be passed onto families and in smaller towns people might not have the tightened restrictions.

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2 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

I feel like we (England) need this pause - with appropriate support for businesses - but he won’t do it. Might be in for a horrendous couple of months.

I agree ....  even with the numbers dipping in some of the cities posted above lets get them down further ... hes done plenty of about turns and hes not actually ruled this out totally yet .... but it would be bonkers not to fit it in with half term .... 

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4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

skewing the data but passing on the virus to others then ? 

Wasn’t implying they weren’t, it just explains the sudden huge spike we saw a few weeks ago when the private testing of universities came into play (e.g. Northumberland Uni having 1000+ positives). Now that has eased up, the figures have started to dip, to move in line with the situation across the entire population of the cities (which is still too high). 

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A huge portion of those positive students were locked away and isolating in various halls around the country (some still are), so they were coming into contact with barely anyone outside of that massive infected bubble.

It's absolutely shit that it had to happen in the first place, but it's interesting to see cases drop now they've passed through those stats.

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2 minutes ago, Ted Dansons Wig said:

How likely is Scotland to follow the Welsh lead. Surely it makes most sense to co-ordinate?

 

Might as well get the adjacent parts of England coordinated too. Full lockdown from Cardiff to Aberdeen including everywhere in between. 
 

Leave London wide open if that’s what the Tories want, the rest of us can hide away and let it all blow over. 

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