When will this shit end?

[mcshed]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yeah, shit graph I think...ignore France and Spain..the main point is we're still no where near what Vallance was projecting a few weeks ago...

They were projecting that if we didn't do anything, we are doing things.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, ace56blaa said:

Nottingham seeing 350 cases per 100,000 but not locked down. The situation has spiked massive from the lost data. So probably should have already been in lockdown

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/live-updates-nottingham-becomes-one-4576314?utm_source=whatsapp.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&fbclid=IwAR2HN2gP-7XkFyEvuVaRC8bMcY4cmcr6dVMydHGq8KxZ07loPrLftQeG6UM

Sounds like a university campus outbreak? 

[ace56blaa]

12,594 cases today, no message about there being missing cases added

[JoeyT]

2 minutes ago, ace56blaa said:

12,594 cases today, no message about there being missing cases added

I can't be the only one not knowing what to believe and what not to believe anymore?!

No wonder we have so many conspiracy theorists around on social media etc. The government are so inept they literally play in to these people's hands. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

3 minutes ago, ace56blaa said:

12,594 cases today, no message about there being missing cases added

Is that a legit 12.5k? If so we’re up shit creek

 

Let’s wait for some twitter boffin to sort them by specimen date. If 6k+ are from Saturday then it’s time to hit the panic button 

[Billy Corgan's Ego]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-54422023

If they are even close to being correct, this means they estimate the fatality rate of covid to be as low as 0.13%. 

[Homer]

29 minutes ago, gigpusher said:

I absolutely recommend it. I even made my husband read it and he's usually a strictly murder mystery kind of guy. He even said it was incredibly accessible for such a heavy topic. 

Thanks, I'll buy it now. I need something to depress that crap out of myself with. Let myself down since I started work again (reading The Wolf of Wall Street; still US corruption, etc, but, you know a bit more cheeky and loveable - or at least Jordan Belfort seems to think so anyway).

[steviewevie]

12.5k sounds about right with the lost cases added...

[Fuzzy Afro]

London with 7% of the new cases in 13% of the population. Our prevalence is about half the national average and yet Sadiq Khan is trying to get us all locked down.

 

I’m half tempted to resign my Labour Party membership to vote against him in May. 

[Ozanne]

If you are going to look for the specimen data then it’s best to wait a few days as the data for 5th October won’t be fully included till then. 

[Avalon_Fields]

4 minutes ago, Billy Corgan's Ego said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-54422023

If they are even close to being correct, this means they estimate the fatality rate of covid to be as low as 0.13%. 

Which would make it a very mild virus relating to death rates. (Ebola one of the worst at 70% or more, but not nearly as easy to catch).

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, Ozanne said:

If you are going to look for the specimen data then it’s best to wait a few days as the data for 5th October won’t be fully included till then. 

True, but it’s a pretty good estimator of the actual situation. Usually if 45%-50% of the cases come from 2 days previously, then we can just say case numbers lag positive tests by 48 hours which is usually the case. If that 45%-50% number falls then there’s a backlog, in which case actual numbers may be worse than we think. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, Avalon_Fields said:

Which would make it a very mild virus relating to death rates. (Ebola one of the worst at 70% or more, but not nearly as easy to catch).

Well yeah. If anything this pandemic has taught us how up shit creek we’d be if a genuinely really dangerous virus that could spread easily came along. At least now we can quickly implement social distancing and lockdowns the next time bat soup is on the menu in other parts of the world. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 hour ago, gizmoman said:

well technically an underground station but clearly in the open air.

There are several things that prove he’s just a c**t ... he is the pms dad so he could just ring him for some clarity  ... this is the third photo that’s been taken without him wearing a mask ... so maybe if he’s in any doubt it might just be worth him doing some research or looking around him ? You could also say pippa is out to get him .. but if he wears one he gives no ammunition ... bloody idiot police have to investigate him now 

[zahidf]

Ireland ignoring the advice to go to stage 5, goign to go to stage 3 instead

[Crazyfool01]

1 hour ago, Homer said:

I was lucky in that I got furloughed for four months. So I took all the 'clever' (politics, etc) books on my shelf (about eight?) stuck them in a pile and read all of them eventually. I also watched shedloads of docs about Trump, racism, Nazis, etc. So I now have a really pretty good understanding of just how screwed we are as a species. Which is nice.

Has the Nai got hold of your login ? 

[Fuzzy Afro]

The entire north of England is so fucking riddled atm

[Homer]

Just now, crazyfool1 said:

Has the Nai got hold of your login ? 

Ha - I only drink on Saturdays and Sundays - that may be reflected in my posts today!

[Fuzzy Afro]

The entire north of England is so fucking riddled atm
 

 

Leeds, a city with population under half a million, is posting a similar number of cases per day as the entire UK was in July 

[DeanoL]

8 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

I don’t understand why there’s such a huge north/south divide. 
 

I can understand why the less dense parts of the country have fewer cases but surely London should be suffering the same if not worse than the other major cities. 
 

It’s almost as if there isn’t the same level of response to the virus in certain areas because the government are corrupt arseholes. 

London is an oddity. I think a big part of it is that to get anywhere you have to take the tube. And everyone who lives or works in London is quite aware of just how a big a disease incubator the tube is at the best of times, being crammed into small carriages, with no air circulation, 100s of feet underground.  It doesn't take government guidance for people to know that getting the tube is a bad idea.

But London is so reliant on it, far fewer people drive. So if you don't drive and won't take the tube, you're not going anywhere not in walking distance (yes, there are buses but they'll be busy with people avoiding the tube). You're not going into the office - there's no way it could be made safe as again, you'd need to take the tube to get there - which is hugely different to an office on a business park that everyone drives to. So everyone is working from home, and of course, it's primarily office and hospitality work there anyway. 

So if people are going out, it's to a local pub, so people are effectively only socialising in small clusters. It's not driving to the other side of the city to go for a meal with friends like it might be elsewhere. 

London is pretty different to basically the whole rest of the UK in that regard.

[Ozanne]

6 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

The entire north of England is so fucking riddled atm

I've been saying this for a little while, and presented data last week that shows this. Our 2nd wave appears to be like Italy's first as in its centred on a specific area.

[Fuzzy Afro]

2 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

London is an oddity. I think a big part of it is that to get anywhere you have to take the tube. And everyone who lives or works in London is quite aware of just how a big a disease incubator the tube is at the best of times, being crammed into small carriages, with no air circulation, 100s of feet underground.  It doesn't take government guidance for people to know that getting the tube is a bad idea.

But London is so reliant on it, far fewer people drive. So if you don't drive and won't take the tube, you're not going anywhere not in walking distance (yes, there are buses but they'll be busy with people avoiding the tube). You're not going into the office - there's no way it could be made safe as again, you'd need to take the tube to get there - which is hugely different to an office on a business park that everyone drives to. So everyone is working from home, and of course, it's primarily office and hospitality work there anyway. 

So if people are going out, it's to a local pub, so people are effectively only socialising in small clusters. It's not driving to the other side of the city to go for a meal with friends like it might be elsewhere. 

London is pretty different to basically the whole rest of the UK in that regard.

Spot on. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I've been saying this for a little while, and presented data last week that shows this. Our 2nd wave appears to be like Italy's first as in its centred on a specific area.

Agreed, although Italy’s outbreak was mainly just in the city of Bergamo right? Our one seems to be the entire North of England from Newcastle to Lancashire 

[steviewevie]

do you not think there may be more immunity in London because there was so much of it there in the 1st wave?

[steviewevie]

Covid knocked the stuffing out of Johnson. Will it do the same to Trump?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/05/covid-boris-johnson-donald-trump-strongman-politicians