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25 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Hope her gran is doing ok

 

Fair fucks to her for being asymptomatic at that age. We could all do with being more like her. Although I wonder if the stroke was due to the covid. 

She's okay at the moment, her gran was in hospital late Aug too as she fell in the bath hit her head and broke her arm but pulled through great with that then over a week ago had the stroke - so no idea if covid caused it but I think she's in the best place in the hospital as they can keep an eye on her

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3 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

This is our policy at the current time, I'd assume your workplace will have similar:

We would also remind everyone that we all have a responsibility to do everything we can to ensure the safety, not only of ourselves, but also of those working around us at all times by adhering to Government guidelines and the internal guidance we have published.

In general

If you develop coronavirus symptoms or someone you share your home with has coronavirus symptoms, including:

 

+     a high temperature;

+     a new continuous cough. This means coughing a lot for more than an hour, or three or more episodes of coughing in a day;

+     losing or experiencing a change to your sense of smell or taste

 

then do not attend any of the offices. If you are already in an office, go home immediately and book in for a test via the NHS website as soon as possible. Please let HR know about the arrangements for your Covid-19 test and the results ASAP.

 

Do not return to work until you have clearance from HR to do so.

 

Positive test

If your test shows you have coronavirus, you must inform HR as soon as possible and they will advise you on what to do.

 

If someone you share your home with has signs of coronavirus or has tested positive, you should stay at home for 14 days from when their symptoms started. This is whether you have coronavirus symptoms or not.

 

If you then start to have coronavirus symptoms yourself, you should stay at home for 10 days from when your own symptoms started.

 

Remaining staff will not be required to self-isolate unless they have been in close contact within the past 48 hours with someone that has tested positive.

 

Examples of close contact include:

 

+     close face to face contact (under one metre) for any length of time;

+     being within one to two metres of each other for more than 15 minutes – including travelling in a small vehicle.


The firm will arrange to deep clean the desk area (and the meeting room, if relevant) of the staff member who has tested positive and the desk will be quarantined until that has been completed.

The 1st part is the same but just ned to check what the rules are about the bit in bold as if I was in the office then I would come under within 2m for long period of time - luckily WFH but I just want to know what would happen if i used this example if we worked in the office as it does worry me

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Interesting article: 

 

https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/10/01/the-pursuit-of-happiness/

 

"the government needs to take charge of its scientific advisers and ask them to draw up a strategy for safer everyday living. We are in this for the medium haul at least, so instead of arbitrary and intrusive rules that are widely flouted, it would be better to have a general offence of “socialising without due care and attention” and a detailed code of practice – a Highway Code for Covid.  "

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3 hours ago, Ozanne said:

But not the most important day ever though.

We should also show some level of respect to people who are picking U.K. the virus, imagine if you were one of them and you then saw people saying that’s it’s a good day with 7,500 new cases. I know I’d feel pretty bad that my diagnoses was being viewed that way. It’s just showing some empathy, it’s the same as playing the guessing game of how many new cases we are going to have today. This is people’s lives we are talking about not another round of Pointless. 

While I get what you're saying, I think plenty of people on here are guilty of posting up and pouring over the numbers and graphs every day and treating it like pure statistics. Or waiting for when the new figures are coming out ready to discuss them. I don't think it can be okay if you're doing so to say you're sad  it's all doom and gloom and getting worse, but suddenly insensitive to be happy if there are some improvements.

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8 minutes ago, shoptildrop said:

This is quite a good easy summary of the measures by the daily fail (although Bolton has just changed today on pubs opening again)

 

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While it's clear, what it doesn't do is differentiate between advice and legal requirements - which again, could cause confusion.

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2 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

While I get what you're saying, I think plenty of people on here are guilty of posting up and pouring over the numbers and graphs every day and treating it like pure statistics. Or waiting for when the new figures are coming out ready to discuss them. I don't think it can be okay if you're doing so to say you're sad  it's all doom and gloom and getting worse, but suddenly insensitive to be happy if there are some improvements.

Spot on. Certain people are very quick to comment when things are looking bad but then will come along to poo poo things when they’re starting to improve.

 

Thats why I’ve started setting the parameters of what I think constitutes a good day or bad day before the data comes out, that way I can’t be seen to be spinning the numbers to fit my narrative. Like I say, under 7500 is a reason for optimism today, but my money would be on 8872.

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1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Spot on. Certain people are very quick to comment when things are looking bad but then will come along to poo poo things when they’re starting to improve.

It must be exhausting for those who constantly focus on only the negative of the whole situation. Some positivity is certainly needed at times like this - it makes such a difference. 

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7 minutes ago, st dan said:

It must be exhausting for those who constantly focus on only the negative of the whole situation. Some positivity is certainly needed at times like this - it makes such a difference. 

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6 minutes ago, st dan said:

It must be exhausting for those who constantly focus on only the negative of the whole situation. Some positivity is certainly needed at times like this - it makes such a difference. 

I think I am guilty of focusing on the negative a lot more than the positives, the days i've posted statistics, I've tried to comment when it seems like better figures or stuff heading in a better direction. 

The's a lot of negatives for me personally due to how corona has affected my work and income, despite being in a barely affected part of the country. Even if the virus starts to ease up, my life will be affected for a while. 

Though there's a lot to be positive about, I have got loads of productive stuff done in lockdown and had a lot of time to myself and it is looking like the virus might not get worse in some parts of england and it would mean more jobs and opportunities in the south of england. 

I do worry we are not through the worst yet, but I'm cautiously optimistic and no longer pin my hopes on daily figures, though i still find them interesting and one of the metrics to see how we are doing, but it feels like less of a national issue at the moment and just hoping that doesn't change and the restrictions work in the hotspots

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9 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

While I get what you're saying, I think plenty of people on here are guilty of posting up and pouring over the numbers and graphs every day and treating it like pure statistics. Or waiting for when the new figures are coming out ready to discuss them. I don't think it can be okay if you're doing so to say you're sad  it's all doom and gloom and getting worse, but suddenly insensitive to be happy if there are some improvements.

I’m not being all doom and gloom. In fact 2 days this week I’ve spent my own time finding different sets of data, compiling the information, analysing what I think the data means and sharing it all with people here. Take today for example the BBC story was shared about the Imperial College report, I went to find the report, read it shared some of the aspects I thought were important as I thought people might want to see the data meant. I don’t have to do that, but I have at least spent my own time and effort so there’s at least some information to support my comments. Most of the time I’ve done that to no appreciation from anyone but I still carry on to do so, I’m starting to wonder why I put the effort in. I’m not plucking an arbitrary figure out of thin air.

The insensitive comment is in regards to playing a guessing game of case numbers and also saying over 7,500 cases is good when it’s doubled in 2 weeks. That comment wasn’t about a general discussion or case number movements. 

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1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I’m not being all doom and gloom. In fact 2 days this week I’ve spent my own time finding different sets of data, compiling the information, analysing what I think the data means and sharing it all with people here. Take today for example the BBC story was shared about the Imperial College report, I went to find the report, read it shared some of the aspects I thought were important as I thought people might want to see the data meant. I don’t have to do that, but I have at least spent my own time and effort so there’s at least some information to support my comments. Most of the time I’ve done that to no appreciation from anyone but I still carry on to do so, I’m starting to wonder why I put the effort in. I’m not plucking an arbitrary figure out of thin air.

The insensitive comment is in regards to playing a guessing game of case numbers and also saying over 7,500 cases is good when it’s doubled in 2 weeks. That comment wasn’t about a general discussion or case number movements. 

See, I actually found all that a bit ghoulish and insensitive. I feel the same about people guessing the case numbers too. But I don't call people out on it because I recognise that different people have different ways of processing and coping with the shit we're all dealing with at the moment.

Not telling you to stop doing it, it's just from my perspective I was reading a comment from one of the ghoulish numbers people criticising another ghoulish numbers person for being too insensitive and not thinking about people's lives. I essentially agreed with you, but to me you also do the same thing.

And you can and you should do that, but I think it's worth extending that same level of acceptance to others, is all.

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