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2460 cases and 32 deaths is the benchmark figure for today. I’m hoping that we might start to see a bit of downwards pressure on R in the coming days although the full impact of the “rule of 6” is still 10-14 days from showing up in the figures. If R is still above 1 by the last weekend in September you’re probably looking at more stringent regulations. I think they’d probably go with:

 

- Hospitality to close at 10pm

- Rule of 6 still applies to outdoor gatherings, but you are no longer allowed to meet indoors out with your household

- Shielding reintroduction

 

They’ll fall short of a full lockdown. TBH I can’t see pubs closing again unless National figures soar to Bolton levels or pubs are specifically identified as being the driver of outbreaks. I think the government will specifically clamp down on social interaction which has no economic benefit (I.e. household gatherings) as they did in NW England. They’ll only take measures with economic downside if absolutely necessary. 

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4 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Hearing a lot of anecdotes of schools sending children with the sniffles home and telling them not to come back until they’ve tested negative which is overwhelming the testing capacity. Head teachers really need a reminder of what constitutes a covid-symptom, and what constitutes a minor cold. 

They have to err on the side of caution. They don’t want to risk compromising the whole school. 
 

A sneeze isn’t a symptom but put yourself in their place. Do you want to be the headteacher that allows a covid outbreak within their school? 

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15 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

They have to err on the side of caution. They don’t want to risk compromising the whole school. 
 

A sneeze isn’t a symptom but put yourself in their place. Do you want to be the headteacher that allows a covid outbreak within their school? 

Couldn’t agree more squirrel 🐿 the decisions head teachers have to take are hard enough ... imagine the pressures they are under .. trying to organise all the measures and trying to asses the health of umpteen numbers of children ...

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13 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Couldn’t agree more squirrel 🐿 the decisions head teachers have to take are hard enough ... imagine the pressures they are under .. trying to organise all the measures and trying to asses the health of umpteen numbers of children ...

Yup. Govt fault for not sorting out testing 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Hearing a lot of anecdotes of schools sending children with the sniffles home and telling them not to come back until they’ve tested negative which is overwhelming the testing capacity. Head teachers really need a reminder of what constitutes a covid-symptom, and what constitutes a minor cold. 

Overwhelming the test capacity is a line from Matt Hancock or Boris ... the test capacity should be ready for the return to school ... people getting tests because they are concerned about symptoms is the very right thing to be doing ... that is nobody’s fault other than the government ... in a few weeks we should be at 500,000 daily tests .... where are we now ? 

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Just now, Gilb said:

Isn't testing volume constrained by lab capacity?

Yeah that’s exactly the problem. They have capacity for fivetyteen hundred and eleventythousand swabs to be taken every day (according to the Priti Patel calculator anyway) but the lab capacity hasn’t been ramped up to match this. End result is that the drive-in test centres are becoming white elephants.

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Seriously, though WTF is up with the tests at the moment? If the cases don't hit a record today since they started rising again and we see an increase in positivity% then they've got serious problems in maintaining the current test levels, let alone increasing the capacity to cope with the needs to managing a return to school.

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43 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

They have to err on the side of caution. They don’t want to risk compromising the whole school. 
 

A sneeze isn’t a symptom but put yourself in their place. Do you want to be the headteacher that allows a covid outbreak within their school? 

I get why they are, but it’s not practical to test every child with a runny nose or a sneeze. We don’t have the testing capacity to do that, so the education authorities need to mandate the headteachers not to send any child home for a test unless they have an actual Covid symptom. 

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Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

I get why they are, but it’s not practical to test every child with a runny nose or a sneeze. We don’t have the testing capacity to do that, so the education authorities need to mandate the headteachers not to send any child home for a test unless they have an actual Covid symptom. 

Let’s look at it a different way then ... as a parent you would have 3 kids maybe to look after ... as a teacher you might have a class of 30 ... who’s job is it to make sure the kids are totally fit and healthy to be attending schools ? If you think a teacher has the time to be assessing and giving medicals to all kids in their care ... would you want the ultimate responsibility for keeping a child in a school based on a time factored decision that could have fatal consequences further down the line ? 

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