When will this shit end?

[Ozanne]

11 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

There’s no confusion from the term apart from those who are looking for an excuse to stir up conversations and create drama where there doesn’t need to be any. 

Exactly. 

[Crazyfool01]

35 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Why not just say face covering then?

Because we like it simple here ... that’s 2 words and over complicates things  

[JoeyT]

 

[Crazyfool01]

Is it really a surprise numbers have dropped when people can’t get tested shocker !! From the last few days not last week 

Edited September 14, 2020 by crazyfool1

[steviewevie]

27 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I mean, if we are all back to normal in the UK next year then no ones going to be complaining. Besides, once we have one or more that works and is approved, they’re going to be churning them out at the rate of knots. Just because the UK and other G20 type countries will get them first doesn’t mean other places won’t get them at all. 

and there's your vaccine nationalism right there.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Is it really a surprise numbers have dropped when people can’t get tested shocker !! From the last few days not last week 

maybe they're doing it on purpose..?

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

and there's your vaccine nationalism right there.

How do you propose that the vaccine rollout should work? 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

maybe they're doing it on purpose..?

another conspiracy theory ?   

[Ozanne]

14 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Is it really a surprise numbers have dropped when people can’t get tested shocker !! From the last few days not last week 

They are still pretty high given it was a Sunday.

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Ozanne said:

They are still pretty high given it was a Sunday.

yeah I guess people might have more luck going to church and praying they dont have it , than getting a test 

[steviewevie]

Monoclonal antibodies to begin UK trial

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54120753

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

How do you propose that the vaccine rollout should work? 

WHO working with Gavi to set this up...rich nations contribute money so vaccines can be distributed fairly...US is not one of them of course.

https://www.gavi.org/covid19/covax-facility

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

WHO working with Gavi to set this up...rich nations contribute money so vaccines can be distributed fairly...US is not one of them of course.

https://www.gavi.org/covid19/covax-facility

from here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54027269

[Ryan1984]

24 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Those last few sentences sound like he’s being cautious to avoid a ‘Johnson Tantrum’.

[Crazyfool01]

someone I work with said to me today that they were trying to get hold of a test for his nephew ..... hes a Boris fan but said to me he wishes he wouldn't lie ..... he probably won't change which way he votes though .... thats the kind of bonkers country we live in when we knowingly vote for liars fffs 

[steviewevie]

It's like 2019 all over again...good old brexit.

[Toilet Duck]

53 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

think they have, but I think it's pretty feckin dodgy that wealthier countries can preorder this stuff...vaccine nationalim...but entirely predictable I guess.

On the one hand, I agree, and if there was a way of making all of the manufacturers ensure that Covax and other ethical vaccine distribution partners got adequate stocks then it would be better. However, the pre-orders also represent risk-sharing in terms of the development and production costs (the whole cost is not provided upfront, but it encourages the companies to actually push ahead and make the vaccines). AZ don't traditionally make vaccines (I wondered why they were the chosen partners for Oxford at the start, but then the penny dropped that all the big vaccine makers had their own in the pipeline...Pfizer even hedged their bets and bought a German one that is further ahead than their own). So, something has to convince big Pharma to take the risk and if it's massive pre-orders accompanied by set amounts put aside for low income countries, then I guess that's one way of making it kind of work (AZ have committed to providing nearly 400m doses to Covax/GAVI/CEPI for example at $3 a shot for low and middle income countries, and Covax has raised enough funding to pay for half of them already)...The alternative is the companies fund the entire thing themselves, but then get to charge whatever the hell they like if it works (I think that would end up worse for everyone...the same rich countries would still buy it, but there would be less leverage to get cheap access for low or middle income countries). There still isn't enough doses put aside/committed, but it's a start...

[Mr.Tease]

I don't understand how you get through life being this thick- do you constantly get stung by the wallet inspector? Are you forever clicking on spam emails?

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

I don't understand how you get through life being this thick- do you constantly get stung by the wallet inspector? Are you forever clicking on spam emails?

good grief

[Mr.Tease]

Just now, steviewevie said:

good grief

The granny at the 1.06 min mark- I don't know whether to laugh or wander off in despair!

[Ayrshire Chris]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

It's like 2019 all over again...good old brexit.

Ed’s on,  he’s doing well. 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Mr.Tease said:

The granny at the 1.06 min mark- I don't know whether to laugh or wander off in despair!

there is so much if that shit around now, getting worse and worse...QAnon and all that. People just being fed more and more of it on youtube.

[fatyeti24]

Americans are fucking hilarious.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Ed’s on,  he’s doing well. 

Good old Ed. I liked Ed.