When will this shit end?

[squirrelarmy]

[JoeyT]

Hey @FestivalJamie what's the deal with consistently voting those with a differing viewpoint to yours?

I've just noticed you've downvoted 2 of @MEGABOWL's comments for what I assume is no other reason than having a different opinion to yours.

Let's not go down that road. Discuss / debate don't hide behind a downvote...

[philipsteak]

40 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I'll be sticking to it...haven't seen my family since the lockdown and that will continue, and haven't got that many friends! Not sure if my kid will always stick to it though. But, at same time I was in a conference room with 8 other people yesterday from different parts of Gtr Manchester, but I'm sure that's fine,

Haven't seen my family since well before lockdown. Nice to have an excuse for once though rather than just "being a terrible son"

[mcshed]

1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

I’m happy to know I’m not the only Grinch in these parts. 😁

 

[Gingerfish79]

'Operation moonshot', is just nonsense. It might be possible at some point to have this tech and the systems required to administer it, but not in the timescales required. It could be more accurately termed 'operation take another £100bn out of the public purse and give it to our private sector friends'. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Hearing that there’s a government u-turn incoming on airport testing 

[squirrelarmy]

2 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Hearing that there’s a government u-turn incoming on airport testing 

Thatcher would be u-turning in her grave if she knew about the state of the current tory government. 

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Hearing that there’s a government u-turn incoming on airport testing 

 

[philipsteak]

11 minutes ago, mcshed said:

 

 

I've been listening to these guys so much lately. Way more than ever before and way more thank any other artist right now. 

[funkychick2007]

As far as families go I think you have to be sensible and meet up!! Thts what I would do personally!!! The police are dammed what ever they do or don’t do! Tbh new guidelines have caused major issues with my work! Court orders say families need to see each other quite rightly but need to supervised which put us and them in the position of breaking the law!!! Many of these groups are over 6!  A case of the law breaking its own laws! 
the impact of all this on relationships and safeguarding vulnerable adults and children Is unbelievably negative and the government has not really considered any of it!!! for me thts much scary than Covid without sounding disrespectful to people who have lost family and friend through a very serious illness! 
I’m really cross today! Sorry if this upsets anyone in anyway! On a positive note schools are doing an amazing job and have done all the way through from my own experiences! 
 

[Punksnotdead]

1 hour ago, st dan said:

Genuine question - those who are going to be affected by this new ‘6 maximum’ ruling, are you really going to stick to it? Im not talking about attending parties or mass gatherings, more about if that number creeps to 7/8 people if you meet friends or family and there are little kids included in that number for example?

I was supposed to be going to Nottingham with 18 mates for a weekend at the beginning of October, so I guess that's off now! 😞

Such a shame as I haven't seen some of them since January (from different parts of the country). 

I presume we'll get a refund from the hotel, as they'd be breaking the law if they allowed us in?

[DeanoL]

1 hour ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Where are they getting this idea that the rule of six will last until March from? Hugely depressing if so.

I think it's the way Johnson introduced the whole thing as "this is the update for COVID 19 going into Autumn and Winter". Spring starts in March.

43 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Absolutely zero chance of the majority of people not having Xmas with their family if the rule of six is in place. It will be such a low compliance with the rules on that day, I dont see why I should be bothered about it

People can still have Christmas with their family. Just not all of their family. If they can make that message work they might have a chance. They'll probably be better off increasing the number though - the more automatic compliance they can get ("well, my family is only 6 people anyway") the more likely it is to be followed. Although I think we may see an alternative system - I think the big problem with Christmas will be people going and seeing lots of different family over multiple days. Maybe we will get Christmas family bubbles of like 12 people but you can't socialise outside of that bubble over the Xmas/New Year week.

I know we've made the joke already but I really do think there's something in the fact that people are talking about how they will probably break the new law in a "small and controlled way" which the government is using to get us on board with them breaking international law over Brexit...

[JoeyT]

1 minute ago, DeanoL said:

I know we've made the joke already but I really do think there's something in the fact that people are talking about how they will probably break the new law in a "small and controlled way" which the government is using to get us on board with them breaking international law over Brexit...

I must admit it amuses me hearing people get funny over some admitting they will go above this new "law" by 1 or 2 people when let's face it we pretty much all break the law daily when driving our cars above speed limits...

[DeanoL]

5 minutes ago, funkychick2007 said:

As far as families go I think you have to be sensible and meet up!! Thts what I would do personally!!! The police are dammed what ever they do or don’t do! Tbh new guidelines have caused major issues with my work! Court orders say families need to see each other quite rightly but need to supervised which put us and them in the position of breaking the law!!! Many of these groups are over 6!  A case of the law breaking its own laws! 
the impact of all this on relationships and safeguarding vulnerable adults and children Is unbelievably negative and the government has not really considered any of it!!! for me thts much scary than Covid without sounding disrespectful to people who have lost family and friend through a very serious illness! 
I’m really cross today! Sorry if this upsets anyone in anyway! On a positive note schools are doing an amazing job and have done all the way through from my own experiences! 
 

I agree there's no way they've even considered this, but was that not already against the rules anyway - no more than two households could meet up inside, so the two meeting plus a supervisor wasn't allowed? Whereas now that is allowed as long as the total number doesn't exceed six?

The silly thing is, two families of four could go to two rooms off a lobby, the supervisor could enter the lobby, and they they could take it in turns to leave the rooms, as long as no more than five family members were in the lobby together at once. But they could go through every permutation without restriction! Which does make the whole thing fairly silly.

[stuie]

5 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

People can still have Christmas with their family. Just not all of their family.

That's just an impossible situation for some people - I'm one of 6 siblings, my sister and her boyf just about to have their first baby in November, others have long term partners and kids.  I guess we'll literally have to draw straws or pull numbers out of a hat.

 

[Crazyfool01]

2 hours ago, MEGABOWL said:

And now we get this....

what sort of people might be applying for this job ..... before the introduction of this id thoughts about my company introducing something like this and me taking up the role .... why ? because im petrified about me or my work colleagues becoming ill ... does that make me an ass ? maybe but if it kept people safe id be ok with that . 

However the liberty thing scares me ... the right to protest is fundamental and now that will effectively be banned .... with brexit just round the corner and the coverage of the XR protests at the printers it does seem rather coincidental 

[fatyeti24]

As others have said, the 'rule of six' is largely unenforceable.  It seems aimed at preventing larger gatherings and I'll be amazed if anyone is prosecuted for going above the limit by a person or two. 

It doesn't really affect me, except in one specific and limited way:  we weren't going to host family at ours for Xmas, now, against my wishes, we are.  We have more space and don't want to end up at my mum's, which was the alternative.  Now, thanks to this new law, we can at least keep the numbers down.  Every cloud.

[phimill]

8 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

I must admit it amuses me hearing people get funny over some admitting they will go above this new "law" by 1 or 2 people when let's face it we pretty much all break the law daily when driving our cars above speed limits...

Does this mean the 10% + 3 rule works for gatherings - acutally the limit before prosecution is 9.6people?

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, phimill said:

Does this mean the 10% + 3 rule works for gatherings - acutally the limit before prosecution is 9.6people?

Whose going to be the first person to remove 40% of their Gran?

[WestCountryGirl]

I am pretty bummed about the Christmas prospects. For the first time ever I didn't spend Christmas with my family last year, staying in Liverpool with my boyfriend instead. It was just not my kind of Christmas - it didn't even feel like Christmas. And I love Christmas! So I was determined that this year I'd be with my family again.

Even so, our "big family Christmas" kind of reached it's breaking point in the last few years anyway. The family are scattered across the country, so there is no one place where there are enough houses/beds to put everyone, up especially as more children are born. Naturally, my aunts and uncles who are grandparents want to spend the time with their grandkids, and their grandkids have other grand parents who want to be with them too, wherever they're living.

Best case scenario for this year - boyfriend and I are in Plymouth with my parents, my brother and sister-in-law and my 1 year old nephew. And even that will probably not feel "right". 

 

[squirrelarmy]

If cancelling Christmas means there’s more chance of Glastonbury going ahead without any changes would everyone accept the lack of xmas spirit this year?

[funkychick2007]

13 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I agree there's no way they've even considered this, but was that not already against the rules anyway - no more than two households could meet up inside, so the two meeting plus a supervisor wasn't allowed? Whereas now that is allowed as long as the total number doesn't exceed six?

The silly thing is, two families of four could go to two rooms off a lobby, the supervisor could enter the lobby, and they they could take it in turns to leave the rooms, as long as no more than five family members were in the lobby together at once. But they could go through every permutation without restriction! Which does make the whole thing fairly silly.

Families in the past month have just started to see each each as being supervised broke the rules anyway!! They have kept in contact through FaceTime which for adults is hard to cope with let alone brothers and sisters who are not able to see each other! 
I’m not going to post anymore as I’m very aware people could Benin here in tht situation and I don’t want to upset them or make it worse for them!! 
just makes me so cross the government at the top hasn’t even thought about vulnerable adults and children! Come and spend the day with us and pick up the pieces of what’s been created! 
I’m shutting up now! 😬🤬

[Henrik]

You guys are out of your minds if you are going to let these clowns tell you if you can spend Christmas with your family or not. 

I will be having a big family Christmas as usual. It's not even up for debate. 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Paul ™ said:

We're off back to central Portugal at the end of this month to our friends Quinta which is literally in the middle of nowhere.

We will be back in April if it's safe to do so!

I'll feel a lot safer there for sure.

bloody hec, that sounds good. Got room for one more?

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, funkychick2007 said:

Families in the past month have just started to see each each as being supervised broke the rules anyway!! They have kept in contact through FaceTime which for adults is hard to cope with let alone brothers and sisters who are not able to see each other! 
I’m not going to post anymore as I’m very aware people could Benin here in tht situation and I don’t want to upset them or make it worse for them!! 
just makes me so cross the government at the top hasn’t even thought about vulnerable adults and children! Come and spend the day with us and pick up the pieces of what’s been created! 
I’m shutting up now! 😬🤬

No no no ... post away ... that’s not the idea ... we are all in very different situations and learning to accept and be tolerant to others is something we have moved away from ... we are better than that on here ... glastonbury spirit will prevail