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Deaths in last 7 days are down 15% on previous week.

Positive cases/tests ratio is down on yesterday's surprise increase by 25% and the trend still shows no significant increase overall (below).

Numbers in hospital has however increased today by 16% to 647 from 545.  There has however been no update for 2 days on numbers admitted to hospital, so I'm watching that closely to see if it rises to align with the 16% increase.

Patients on ventilator beds also slightly up from 56 to 60 today.

Nobody move a muscle ok?

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6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’m conflicted, I love Nolan but am nervous about a cinema. Plus my group would be 3 guys from different households which isn’t what you are allowed to do. 

can you go together but sit apart ? .... im going to break the rules in a couple of weeks ... one of my friends who ive worked with for 15 years is moving away and ive arranged a meal forgetting the rules at the time ... for 4 households .... hopefully we can have it outside in the beer garden .... im conflicted but im not cancelling it .... 2 of the group have had it not that that makes too much  difference ....

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12 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

Surely just sit separately then meet at the pub garden after to talk about it?

Yes that would be what I would do if I’d go, although we would go in the evening so just go home after. My main concern is virus spread through the air con. 

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2 hours ago, whitehorses said:

I’m out of legit upvotes cos of upvoting some other shit out of sympathy. 

Nae bother, I think we've established today that upvotes and downvotes aren't the be all and end all.

 

 

 

Who the hell am I kidding? SOMEONE VALIDATE MY COMEDY STYLINGS AT ONCE!!!

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12 minutes ago, Quark said:

Nae bother, I think we've established today that upvotes and downvotes aren't the be all and end all.

 

 

 

Who the hell am I kidding? SOMEONE VALIDATE MY COMEDY STYLINGS AT ONCE!!!

There you go! (These upvote/downvote things weren’t a thing when I started posting here, they came in at some point when I wasn’t posting much, so it’s all new to me!).. 

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17 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:
Glad our schools are magic!

 

Can someone tell me what measures we are actually putting in here in England to prevent transmission in schools? So far all I've heard is that it's "all back to normal" because kids aren't at risk of spreading the virus. I'm not so much worried about primary school children but I am worried about secondary school children going back for sure.

I think it's so important we get everyone back to school this September as we can't afford another messed up year of education and no exams again, but the question is, how do we actually do it safely?

Opening everything up as before is going to lead to a lot of outbreaks and localised shutdowns, which will hinder education more, and will lead to an unfairness between different students sitting exams as come next summer, those who have been in a local lockdown/isolation due to contact tracing will have spent less time in the classroom than others.

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8 minutes ago, FestivalJamie said:

 

Can someone tell me what measures we are actually putting in here in England to prevent transmission in schools? So far all I've heard is that it's "all back to normal" because kids aren't at risk of spreading the virus. I'm not so much worried about primary school children but I am worried about secondary school children going back for sure.

I think it's so important we get everyone back to school this September as we can't afford another messed up year of education and no exams again, but the question is, how do we actually do it safely?

Opening everything up as before is going to lead to a lot of outbreaks and localised shutdowns, which will hinder education more, and will lead to an unfairness between different students sitting exams as come next summer, those who have been in a local lockdown/isolation due to contact tracing will have spent less time in the classroom than others.

My kid's high school is staggering the timetable for each year so different year groups are not in communal areas at same time...and then making each year a bubble...which I guess means any kid getting infected means the whole year has to stay home. That's it really...plus usual hand cleaning thing. That's it at moment, but things might change.

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3 minutes ago, FestivalJamie said:

 

Can someone tell me what measures we are actually putting in here in England to prevent transmission in schools? So far all I've heard is that it's "all back to normal" because kids aren't at risk of spreading the virus. I'm not so much worried about primary school children but I am worried about secondary school children going back for sure.

I think it's so important we get everyone back to school this September as we can't afford another messed up year of education and no exams again, but the question is, how do we actually do it safely?

Opening everything up as before is going to lead to a lot of outbreaks and localised shutdowns, which will hinder education more, and will lead to an unfairness between different students sitting exams as come next summer, those who have been in a local lockdown/isolation due to contact tracing will have spent less time in the classroom than others.

I think schools can set their own measures based on gov recommendations. Kids will probably be kept in their "bubbles" (generally 1 class in primary, 1 year in secondary). They might have staggered start/end/break times to help keep the bubbles separate. Encouraging hand washing, rearranging furniture, some might do temperature checks. Different schools might find certain measures don't really work for them so there isn't a 1 size fits all policy.

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3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

My kid's high school is staggering the timetable for each year so different year groups are not in communal areas at same time...and then making each year a bubble...which I guess means any kid getting infected means the whole year has to stay home. That's it really...plus usual hand cleaning thing. That's it at moment, but things might change.

actually there's a bit more to it...they are changing timetable and trying to keep kids in same class/group as much as possible.

It's a big school though, over 300 in each year group,  so is a big undertaking...

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I think it's important to remember that schools are acting off very little official guidance, mainly bits that have come from their local authority and have had to put measures in place ahead of what their idea of what September would look like.

Some of the measures in place could include: 

- Alteration of the school day (staggered starts and finishes)

- Class / Year / Teacher bubbles

- Additional breaks (outdoors)

- Hand washing breaks / stations

- Installation of hand sanitisers

- Appointment of additional cleaning staff 

- Providing staff with cleaning / sanitising equipment

- Very little movement of pupils and staff around the buildings

- No mass gatherings (assembly)

- No face to face staff meetings 

- Restructuring of classrooms

- No after school clubs

- No 'outside' staff (specialist coaches)

- No removal of equipment / books etc. from the building

There is a lot more too, it's all dependent on the school, it's size and it's preferences. They've had to plan for all kinds of eventualities without knowing what they'll face. 

Schools will be different places come September but hopefully not forever!

 

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28 minutes ago, vintagelaureate said:

I think it's important to remember that schools are acting off very little official guidance, mainly bits that have come from their local authority and have had to put measures in place ahead of what their idea of what September would look like.

Some of the measures in place could include: 

- Alteration of the school day (staggered starts and finishes)

- Class / Year / Teacher bubbles

- Additional breaks (outdoors)

- Hand washing breaks / stations

- Installation of hand sanitisers

- Appointment of additional cleaning staff 

- Providing staff with cleaning / sanitising equipment

- Very little movement of pupils and staff around the buildings

- No mass gatherings (assembly)

- No face to face staff meetings 

- Restructuring of classrooms

- No after school clubs

- No 'outside' staff (specialist coaches)

- No removal of equipment / books etc. from the building

There is a lot more too, it's all dependent on the school, it's size and it's preferences. They've had to plan for all kinds of eventualities without knowing what they'll face. 

I work in a school, we're bubbling the year groups together and have a track and trace planned if we have 2 people go off ill but you're bang on with the rest of the plans, we trialled some of the plans when we had Reception and Year 1 in and they worked quite well, however when its 30 children instead of 15 it's a totally different ball game

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