When will this shit end?

[Ozanne]

31 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Looks like it's all over now. 😳

What do you mean?

[funkychick2007]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

My online dating scene hasn't changed from normal times to lockdown, I still get next to no attention on there 😂

Your really having a crap day today and being super tough on yourself! Give your self a break you have lots of friends! Mite not be online dating but lots of good conversation with like minded people! 
the whole On line dating Thing confusing me at Any time let alone during lockdown!! All credit to those who kept going through lockdown! 

[funkychick2007]

1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

If they don’t like your fancy dress get up then they’re not the right person for you! 

Exactly!!

[Crazyfool01]

not much hope of socially distant speed dating though ... id even thought about trying this before lockdown .... think covid might kill this concept off for a while ....

[stuartbert two hats]

33 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

What do you mean?

Pubs are open, barbers are open. Nobody needs to keep their distance anymore apparently. It's all fine, surely?

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Pubs are open, barbers are open. Nobody needs to keep their distance anymore apparently. It's all fine, surely?

Apparently people do need to keep their distance.

[Ozanne]

1 hour ago, funkychick2007 said:

Your really having a crap day today and being super tough on yourself! Give your self a break you have lots of friends! Mite not be online dating but lots of good conversation with like minded people! 
the whole On line dating Thing confusing me at Any time let alone during lockdown!! All credit to those who kept going through lockdown! 

Thank you! I tend to be pretty harsh on myself, but yeah there are lots of people here to have good conversation with.

[zahidf]

Potential good news

 

 

 

[stuartbert two hats]

41 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Potential good news

 

 

 

Paging @toiletduck!

[Toilet Duck]

42 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Paging @toiletduck!

😂

yes, looks interesting! There was a similar paper a few weeks back that reached the same conclusion, mixing neutralising antibodies targeted at different parts of the virus for more effective therapeutics. Still experimental and will take a while to develop, but promising nonetheless!

[cidy]

Things ain't gonna change until a vaccine is  in place so mass gatherings ain't gonna happen in my opinion 

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, cidy said:

Things ain't gonna change until a vaccine is  in place so mass gatherings ain't gonna happen in my opinion 

yeah...I don't know. It's all about risk. Mass gatherings outside probably safer than people being in pubs...and they're already starting to open them up...although they do have social distancing, in theory. Just have to see where we are by next spring, there may be more drugs available that help people with severe or even mild symptoms, there may be much better testing available, they may find that only a certain percentage of the population is susceptible to the disease and the numbers getting severly ill and dieing drops right down even if there is still a lot of people infected...who knows? And, you never know, we could have a vaccine available and being distributed by next spring/summer.

Today I have my optimistic hat on.

[steviewevie]

The thing going against Glastonbury is they really pack them in now...being an old fart I remember going in 90s and there being room  between tents, not packed everywhere etc......but since the 2000s and the fence the place just feels more and more rammed. Maybe they'll need to rethink this.

[SwedgeAntilles]

Starmer gets plenty of plaudits in here, often well deserved, but less than a week after promoting his policy towards Scotland it's been left in tatters.

 

How can he be expected to be taken seriously if he ignores this polling, like Johnson seems committed to doing? I said here weeks ago that there was a path back from oblivion for Scottish Labour (and arguably by-proxy Labour in general) and that was through embracing and campaigning for devo-max in a 2nd indy ref. Starmer and Leonard seem unwilling to do that (despite it being very much a Labour approach). Total failure to 'read the room'.

Some more of those polling numbers here;

 

[steviewevie]

Sturgeon has done a good job, same with Merkel. Maybe being a grown up helps.

[zero000]

I’d selfishly hate to see Scotland leave. Don’t leave us with those Bastards please. 

[foolee]

8 hours ago, cidy said:

Things ain't gonna change until a vaccine is  in place so mass gatherings ain't gonna happen in my opinion 

There probably won’t ever be a vaccine, treatment sure but a vaccine no. Coronavirus’s change a lot and I think it’s very rare to ever get a cure. Things have to get back to normal or we’ll have a lot more to worry about than covid-19.  Once there’s treatment to help the people in intensive care we’re done and have to live with the virus in circulation, just need to get people out of this fear bubble that we seem to be producing. 

[Neil]

32 minutes ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

Starmer gets plenty of plaudits in here, often well deserved, but less than a week after promoting his policy towards Scotland it's been left in tatters.

 

How can he be expected to be taken seriously if he ignores this polling, like Johnson seems committed to doing? I said here weeks ago that there was a path back from oblivion for Scottish Labour (and arguably by-proxy Labour in general) and that was through embracing and campaigning for devo-max in a 2nd indy ref. Starmer and Leonard seem unwilling to do that (despite it being very much a Labour approach). Total failure to 'read the room'.

Some more of those polling numbers here;

 

 

 

There's as much chance of Brexiters abandoning Brexit or Trumpers abandoning Trump. The mindset is the same for each of them.  

It's religion, not rationale.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Neil

[stuartbert two hats]

1 hour ago, foolee said:

There probably won’t ever be a vaccine, treatment sure but a vaccine no. Coronavirus’s change a lot and I think it’s very rare to ever get a cure. Things have to get back to normal or we’ll have a lot more to worry about than covid-19.  Once there’s treatment to help the people in intensive care we’re done and have to live with the virus in circulation, just need to get people out of this fear bubble that we seem to be producing. 

You've got that backwards, coronaviruses change less than influenza. The problem is with the length of time immunity lasts. But even then, boosters are possible.

We are very likely to get more than one successful vaccine. The only question is when and how effective the vaccines will be against disease and infection and how long the protection will last.

I submit this post to the good professor duck for peer* review.

* I'm not a peer in this field.

Edited July 5, 2020 by stuartbert two hats
Pluralising

[Homer]

3 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

You've got that backwards, coronavirus change less than influenza. The problem is with the length of time immunity lasts. But even then, boosters are possible.

We are very likely to get more than one successful vaccine. The only question is when and how effective the vaccines will be against disease and infection and how long the protection will last.

I submit this post to the good professor duck for peer* review.

* I'm not a peer in this field.

You’ve subjected toilet duck to some real peer pressure there

[Toilet Duck]

4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

You've got that backwards, coronavirus change less than influenza. The problem is with the length of time immunity lasts. But even then, boosters are possible.

We are very likely to get more than one successful vaccine. The only question is when and how effective the vaccines will be against disease and infection and how long the protection will last.

I submit this post to the good professor duck for peer* review.

* I'm not a peer in this field.

You’ve been paying excellent attention in class my dual-hatted friend! Pretty much spot on. The main reason we haven’t bothered with CoV vaccines before is that up til now (apart from SARS and MERS), they caused mild illness, so no need to make one (and we did start for SARS and MERS, but the outbreaks dwindled and it was less of a priority). Attrition rate for most vaccines in development is about 90% once they get into human trials. There’s at least 10 at that stage already (with well over 100 more behind that), so the chances of multiple vaccines of varying use are reasonably good. Nothing is ever certain, but I’d expect some sort of vaccine by next year.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, zero000 said:

I’d selfishly hate to see Scotland leave. Don’t leave us with those Bastards please. 

I'm English and pro scottish independence...

[stuartbert two hats]

17 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

You’ve been paying excellent attention in class my dual-hatted friend! Pretty much spot on. The main reason we haven’t bothered with CoV vaccines before is that up til now (apart from SARS and MERS), they caused mild illness, so no need to make one (and we did start for SARS and MERS, but the outbreaks dwindled and it was less of a priority). Attrition rate for most vaccines in development is about 90% once they get into human trials. There’s at least 10 at that stage already (with well over 100 more behind that), so the chances of multiple vaccines of varying use are reasonably good. Nothing is ever certain, but I’d expect some sort of vaccine by next year.

Hooray! I'm teacher's pet!

[SwedgeAntilles]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

There's as much chance of Brexiters abandoning Brexit or Trumpers abandoning Trump. The mindset is the same for each of them.  

It's religion, not rationale.

Even accepting that the 45% who voted for independence are all part of some nationalistic cult (which we're not, another reminder that both the socialist and Greens in Scotland support independence), this latest increase is the Yes vote is going to be primarily made up of either new voters/people who didn't vote last time or, in many cases, soft No's. Neither of those groups can be described as religious followers of the SNP so there remains a sizable for share should a party opt to champion a third approach.  

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Hooray! I'm teacher's pet!

creep.