When will this shit end?

[jparx]

22 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

May not happy about Sedwell/Frost.

 

Cracks showing despite their stonking majority. 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, jparx said:

Cracks showing despite their stonking majority. 

No.10 (Johnson/Cummings/Gove) all powerful...parliament/cabinet now just a nuisance that can be ignored. It's all about Cumming's polling and focus groups now.

[Zoo Music Girl]

40 minutes ago, Chef said:

That's interesting - I hadn't realised Leicester was singled out that far back. 

Its just another example on the list of shambolic handling of this crisis. 

I remember it too - Hancock mentioned it as a very casual aside in the daily briefing.

[Quark]

8 minutes ago, jparx said:

Cracks showing despite their stonking majority. 

I honestly think that they'll find they've done more damage to themselves than they realise at the moment.  They won that majority, whether we like it or not, on the basis of the whole "get brexit done" single issue slogan. 

Their inability to effectively manage anything since then, and particularly Johnson's constant blathering, has really laid bare the gaps in their competence for all to see. When an actual crisis that needs proper management from top to bottom has hit, they've been massively exposed.

The other thing that I think has really buggered them is the blindingly clear double standards over Cummings.  That strong core of Tory voters are the ones who'll have been dong the right thing and staying at home, missing seeing their children and grandchildren, all that kind of stuff.  And they know they've been taken for a ride. And they are pissed.

I'm basing that on a mixture of educated assumption and conversations with my Tory parents. They voted Boris on the basis of Brexit, and they feel like they've been taken for an absolute ride.  They loathe Hancock almost as much as Johnson.  I reckon they've alienated more of their voter base than they might realise.

Combine that with the more palatable Keir Starmer instead of Corbyn (regardless of your preference, Starmer will be able to appeal to the middle ground more) and who knows where we might end up?

[Ozanne]

Keir Starmer is calling for the government to hold a press conference today on the Leicester lockdown. He has said ‘they said they would reconvene press conferences when important, significant things happen, this is important and this is significant’.

 

Seems like a press conference with questions from local media to the area would be very beneficial. 

[squirrelarmy]

19 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

ive just been looking at the wetherspoons social distancing rules .... no requirements to book .......looks like a free for all in my opinion .... not that I was heading there anyway ... meanwhile my hairdresser requires me to wear a bin bag and does actually have appointments available fairly soon ... unfortunately ive booked in with a friend so will stick to that as I thought the high street one wouldn't be available for several weeks ... and my affro is desperate 

Just based on the pub apps I have on my phone it seems that both Greene King and Mitchells & Butlers pubs are doing bookings only. I used to work for M&B and an ex worked for Greene King so I know how the pub brands owned by these companies work.
 

Greene King run the largest number of pubs in the UK and don’t seem to be opening many pubs on the 4th instead they seem to be waiting until Monday instead based on my local. 
 

No mention of any booking on the Wetherspoons app and they will be open on the 4th.

I know where I won’t be. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said:

Just based on the pub apps I have on my phone it seems that both Greene King and Mitchells & Butlers pubs are doing bookings only. I used to work for M&B and an ex worked for Greene King so I know how the pub brands owned by these companies work.
 

Greene King run the largest number of pubs in the UK and don’t seem to be opening many pubs on the 4th instead they seem to be waiting until Monday instead based on my local. 
 

No mention of any booking on the Wetherspoons app and they will be open on the 4th.

I know where I won’t be. 

no booking required according to this .... ive seen no queuing system outside as yet ....https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/contact/faqs/covid19/uk-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

[squirrelarmy]

4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

no booking required according to this .... ive seen no queuing system outside as yet ....https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/contact/faqs/covid19/uk-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

Could do with finding out if more Greene King pubs are delaying their opening until Monday. If the whole chain is doing that then there will be 3,600 less pubs open on the 4th which means way more desperate drinkers aiming for Spoons. I will not be surprised if there are videos of people camping overnight to make sure they’re the first through the doors. 

[Ozanne]

11 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Could do with finding out if more Greene King pubs are delaying their opening until Monday. If the whole chain is doing that then there will be 3,600 less pubs open on the 4th which means way more desperate drinkers aiming for Spoons. I will not be surprised if there are videos of people camping overnight to make sure they’re the first through the doors. 

The Greene King in my town is opening on Monday 6th as well with a booking system and all that.

[Homer]

33 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Just based on the pub apps I have on my phone it seems that both Greene King and Mitchells & Butlers pubs are doing bookings only. I used to work for M&B and an ex worked for Greene King so I know how the pub brands owned by these companies work.
 

Greene King run the largest number of pubs in the UK and don’t seem to be opening many pubs on the 4th instead they seem to be waiting until Monday instead based on my local. 
 

No mention of any booking on the Wetherspoons app and they will be open on the 4th.

I know where I won’t be. 

No need to worry - there has been very little transmission in pubs (Tim Martin said so, remember?).

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Homer said:

No need to worry - there has been very little transmission in pubs (Tim Martin said so, remember?).

beer cures coronavirus. Fact.

[steviewevie]

This is a sobering read on the global covid19 crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/30/covid-19-global-health-crisis-solutions-americas-india-africa

[Tommy101]

Can we all keep in mind how Wetherspoons have treated their staff, especially in the last 6 months when deciding where to spend our money next week please?

[efcfanwirral]

2 hours ago, zahidf said:

Boris said that meant an economic recovery was dependent on reducing the spread of coronavirus. He went on:

What’s my plan, what’s my vision, for how we’re going to cope with Covid? I don’t want a world in the next year where we’re endlessly forced to stay metres apart from each other. That’s not going to work in the long term for the UK economy, for a great, dynamic service economy such as the one that we have. It won’t even work for a manufacturing economy such as the one that we have.

So we’ve got to get that disease down and return to normal life as fast as we possibly can.

There is only one way to "get the disease down" in the current situation and that's by implementing what Trump suggested and just not really testing for it. 

This speech sounds like the start of February Clark Kent one - with potentially as dangerous results 

[steviewevie]

Interesting thread on outbreaks in Leicester and elsewhere...

 

[steviewevie]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Interesting thread on outbreaks in Leicester and elsewhere...

 

[steviewevie]

Pillar 1: swab testing in Public Health England (PHE) labs and NHS hospitals for those with a clinical need, and health and care workers

Pillar 2: swab testing for the wider population, as set out in government guidance"

Edited June 30, 2020 by steviewevie

[Crazyfool01]

1 hour ago, Tommy101 said:

Can we all keep in mind how Wetherspoons have treated their staff, especially in the last 6 months when deciding where to spend our money next week please?

Absolutely ... it’s the last place I’d be heading ... for that and many other reasons 

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

31 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I’m just reading through the thread trying to make sense of it. If pillar 1 has been dropping but pillar 2 has been rising, could that be down to increased pillar 2 testing? It’s concerning that they’ve hidden those figures but equally I’d be expecting pillar 1 to go up in direct correlation.

[steviewevie]

pillars...

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/about

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

 

[Crazyfool01]

Looks like you can still go outdoors 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

pillars...

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/about

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

 

http://www.duncanrobertson.com/2020/06/30/the-lack-of-covid-data-and-why-its-a-problem/

[Ayrshire Chris]

19 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Looks like you can still go outdoors 

I would imagine they have quite a stock of festival style tents .  Must admit it’s the one shop I don’t mind browsing around in. 

[zahidf]

Interesting thread on Tcells. Wouldn't mind your input on it toilet duck when you get a chance!

 

 

 

[Ozanne]

U.K. figures for Tuesday 30th June.