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Not interested in getting into a Sco vs Eng, Sturgeon vs Johson, independence vs devolution debate with this.  Just a potentially positive piece of news from north of the border. Clearly still not perfect and she may be talking up the positives, but the numbers trend is definitely in the right direction.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53195166

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1 hour ago, SalviaPlath said:

Nice. Really nice attitude to women you have.

Where did women come into it? 
Maybe lay off the salvia for a bit. 

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50 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

apart from tweet and endorse some article with a conspiracy theory in there.

The crime for which she's been sacked is anti-semitism.  She's completely innocent of that, as is Maxine Peake - regardless of the fact that they got it wrong about Israeli Security forces and neck-kneeling etc.

Corbyn was absolute rubbish and threw the general election away with his complete failure to handle Brexit.  But the anti-semitism stuff was a politically-motivated attack which they should have fought rather than caved-in to.  Because they didn't, we're now in a situation whereby Labour Leaders feel compelled to equate any criticism of Zionism and the right-wing drift of Israeli politics with anti-semitism.  It isn't.  When I was marching against the second Gulf War in 2003, I ended up being swallowed up by a large group of Jewish anti-zionist/anti-war protesters, who were scathing about the right-wing politics and zealotry which was taking hold of their country.  Many of the architects of the British Labour Party were radical left-wing Jews and it's unbelievable that the current leadership is now frightened to call out the pro-Trump, right-wing zealots who currently wield a frightening amount of influence in Israel for fear of being accused of anti-semitism.

I'm happy to support Starmer because it's necessary for victory - the majority of the electorate are basically morons who put empty slogans and haircuts before any true understanding of economics or politics.  However, is a victory built on capitulation to the extreme right worth winning?

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They brought up a conspiracy theory about Israel police and connected it to the killing of George Floyd and the whole black lives matter thing. This is completely different to critisizing Israel for it's foreign policy and how it treats palestinans. The Socialist Campaign Group yesterday published a letter doing just this, signed by all the corbynite bigwigs...and there was no accusations of antisemitism, nothing from Starmer or any Jewish groups. Because there is nothing wrong with that. But just making up shit cause it fits your agenda is maybe ok for a lefty actress, but the shadow education sec should know better.

I'm surprised they haven't blamed Israel for coronavirus yet.

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Rightly or wrongly this is really all that matters

If we ever want to get rid of the Tories perception needs to change and Keir understands that. 
 

In the same YouGov poll 39% think Jenrick should go. 

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9 minutes ago, Cream Soda said:

Seems ME would be happy to use the app entry scheme proposed by Festival Republic discussed earlier in the thread if push came to shove https://www.theticketingbusiness.com/2020/06/25/app-based-entry-will-new-norm-says-festival-republic-boss/ 

Makes me feel really confident it will go ahead next year. I wonder if you’re refused entry to Glastonbury if they’d give you the ability to buy a ticket for the following year?

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1 minute ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Makes me feel really confident it will go ahead next year. I wonder if you’re refused entry to Glastonbury if they’d give you the ability to buy a ticket for the following year?

Imagine if your test was a false positive result 😭

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6 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Based on the current level of infection only a little over 100 people would actually be infected so I don’t see why they couldn’t allow you to buy for the following year. Would be particularly unlucky to be one of those 100 or so.

Hopefully if it really came to it, if those saliva tests are approved then you'd assume they'll be commercially available  for us all to buy. So I think for our own sanity we'd be best off getting a couple of those and doing our own tests before travelling, so that at least nobody is taken by surprise when they get turned away

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2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Hopefully if it really came to it, if those saliva tests are approved then you'd assume they'll be commercially available  for us all to buy. So I think for our own sanity we'd be best off getting a couple of those and doing our own tests before travelling, so that at least nobody is taken by surprise when they get turned away

If it was anything like the plan outlined by FR you a test would give you unlimited access to events etc for a period of time so I imagine it would be done like that with tests done before the event?  I really can't see them doing tests at the gate and turning people away

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9 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Based on the current level of infection only a little over 100 people would actually be infected so I don’t see why they couldn’t allow you to buy for the following year. Would be particularly unlucky to be one of those 100 or so.

Its one thing actually being infected but imagine finding out later it was a false positive and you missed the festival for nothing.  Don't think I could cope 😭 Anyone know what false positive rate is?

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